Homeopathy At Home with Melissa

Overcoming Baby Eczema: A Homeopathic Approach to Atopic Dermatitis to Prevent Future Conditions

August 21, 2023 Melissa Crenshaw Season 4 Episode 1
Homeopathy At Home with Melissa
Overcoming Baby Eczema: A Homeopathic Approach to Atopic Dermatitis to Prevent Future Conditions
Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers
Are you tired of seeing your baby suffer through eczema without finding a long-term solution? We've helped many families with this too, which is why we're sharing our own experiences and knowledge on how homeopathy can help uproot baby eczema. Instead of solely focusing on food elimination and topical steroid prescriptions, we believe in addressing the root cause with homeopathic remedies alongside other natural treatments like probiotics and Manuka Honey.

In this heartfelt conversation, we tackle the challenges that parents face when dealing with baby eczema, from adjusting diets to dealing with unsolicited advice. We explore the 'atopic march', the progression of eczema, food allergies, and asthma, and emphasize the importance of making homeopathy the foundation of your care plan. We also share useful tips for managing baby eczema, such as using natural topical remedies like Manuka honey and vitamin E oil.

Finally, we delve into specific homeopathic remedies for atopic dermatitis and how to use them effectively. Be sure to tune in to this episode, especially if you know young moms struggling with baby eczema, and learn more about the benefits of homeopathy in uprooting this frustrating condition. Remember, you're not alone in this journey, and there's no judgement when it comes to parenting choices. Let's support each other and help our little ones thrive!

Itchy Skin Ideas

  • Organic Shea butter is a great replacement for lotion and can be used on any itchy, dry skin. 
  • Calc phos 6x mixed with aloe vera gel used topically 
  • Eczema sleeves and cream 

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Bri Hurlburt  0:00  

Welcome back to Homeopathy at Home with Melissa. Hey, Melissa. 


Melissa Crenshaw 0:02

Hey Bri.  Great to see you.


Bri Hurlburt  0:06  

Always good to be here. Today we're talking about eczema, but differently than we typically talk about things. We just kind of on a whim decided that we wanted to have this conversation. We have a lot of questions, or we see a lot of discussion about it, where we have people come to us, and we just thought it would be fun, but also necessary, to have just a candid conversation about what we see and some remedies, but just why we encourage using homeopathy to treat it.


Melissa Crenshaw  0:40  

Yeah. What prompted this is a conversation that I had with someone who just couldn't … Well, she wanted to understand … The conversation was she wanted to understand why was I saying homeopathy was the only way? She was like homeopathy can't be the only way. 


What do pediatricians and lactation consultants tell moms to do when their babies have eczema? And listen, you guys know, I'm a lactation consultant. I spent many years telling moms to cut dairy from their diets because I didn't know any better, and we're going to get into … There's nothing wrong with that. Lactation consultants and pediatricians out there, there's nothing wrong with saying cut dairy from your diet, but it's not the answer.


Bri Hurlburt  1:35  

Yeah, I think that's a great way to put it because sometimes, even as we use homeopathy, some of those things in tandem with homeopathy are great. I think what we're ultimately getting at is really they're not always necessary, a lot of the length that moms go to. I think, also, we need to clarify, we're specifically talking about babies and young children more than others … You can use homeopathy for eczema everywhere but tonight, we wanted to really have some more focus on babies, or at least that's what prompted it, because moms will cut out so much food, go on these huge elimination diets, and we're still seeing babies that are unvaccinated, babies who have had really no Western medicine interventions, still having pretty severe eczema. That's kind of where we started going, and I'm sure we'll go off on rabbit trails for adults and all kinds of people.


Melissa Crenshaw  2:34  

That’s true.  Thank you for saying that because yes, we are really talking about baby eczema tonight, but eczema is eczema so whether we're talking about adults or whatever, but like Bri said in the beginning, this is not your normal podcast episode where we talk about a condition and we tell you lots of remedies and differentiate. We are going to give you a couple of remedies at the end, but this episode really is to help young moms understand that homeopathy needs to be … It’s vital.  It needs to be the core of your care plan. Just eliminating foods is not the answer. 


What we see in clinic is food elimination … What I hear from parents who have older children who did have eczema as a baby, they outgrew it is what they say, or they cut out dairy, while they were breastfeeding, and then the eczema went away. So yes, food elimination can be helpful, but what I see is that when you only eliminate a food, or … Do you know any of the other things, Bri, that pediatricians and lactation consultants say to do?


Bri Hurlburt 3:58  

If you go to a pediatrician, almost always they're going to prescribe a topical steroid, almost every single time. That's at least what I have heard, what I have seen. People in my personal life dealing with this, it's almost always a topical steroid, to start there.  


If you go to a semi-natural one, or maybe an integrative medicine doctor or somebody else, you might get allergy testing as a recommendation, they're going to ask family history maybe, and they'll usually eliminate foods. What I see is more than dairy.  Maybe you have more people who keep saying dairy. I hear a lot of dairy, gluten, corn.  Corn is a big one. 


Melissa Crenshaw 4:45

Eggs are a big one. 


Bri Hurlburt 4:46

Soy sometimes. Eggs are a big one that I see for eczema.  If you’re a breastfeeding mom, or a mom of little children, that's a huge portion of a diet. It’s in so many things. It's heartbreaking to see these moms coming.  They’re at the end of their rope by the time they come to homeopathy. I think Melissa and I are really hoping, share this with your friends, if they're not familiar with homeopathy. A lot of people don't know. They come when they've tried everything and their babies are suffering. They might cut foods and get a little better, but it doesn't take care of the problem. If they “outgrow it,” I'm putting that in quotes if you're just listening, it's primarily either suppressed with steroids or other things, or sometimes antibiotics do show you see “improvement,” again in quotes, witn antibiotics, but it shows up later, like I think you were going to say.


Melissa Crenshaw  5:44  

Yeah. If you use steroids, antibiotics, food elimination, garlic, essential oils, 


Bri Hurlburt 5:52

Probiotics.


Melissa Crenshaw 5:53

Probiotics.  All of those things can absolutely help, but if you don't uproot it with homeopathy, then later what we see, what Bri and I see in clinic, is asthma, allergies, and behaviors. Please hear me when I say these things, I don't mean 100%. I'll say it again, like I always say, there's nothing that's 100% except for Jesus. Okay.


Bri Hurlburt  6:28  

And we’re not over here pretending that we've done years and years and years of data and research, but we have seen it often enough that we have had multiple discussions about this history that we're seeing. Also, I think there's a huge genetic component that I've seen, too, that we've both seen, because their baby is born without any interventions, which means it's coming from … There is a gut compromise somewhere before this baby's born. Typically, there's another sibling that has some type of skin issues. Cradle cap is an indicator. A lot of these babies have had cradle cap. It's somewhere.  There is usually some history of asthma, allergies, and eczema in the past or in siblings. .


Melissa Crenshaw  7:18  

Not all babies that have eczema are going to end up with asthma, allergies, and these behaviors … We're actually going to talk about the behaviors, what I'm talking about. Not all kids with asthma, allergies, and these behaviors had eczema as a baby, but this is just a common theme, this is a common thread that we're seeing and really wanted to talk about it, just like you said, Bri, to encourage, especially young moms, to use homeopathy along with whatever else. If you want to do probiotics and all the other things, do it. 


Also, what I saw as a lactation consultant … I'm still a lactation consultant, but I'm not actively practicing. I'm not in the hospitals seeing families every single day, outpatient and inpatient, but what I saw while I was there in 10 years, is I would be the one to tell the mom to do this food elimination, and they would come back for follow up, and they're exhausted already. When they come in, they're already exhausted, but now I'm going to take away the pleasure of life. Right? Like they can't, they're already-


Bri Hurlburt  8:43  

Convenience.  Hormones. Yeah.


Melissa Crenshaw  8:44  

Hormones are already crazy. If this is your first baby, you went from probably a vibrant love life with your husband to now it's different. It's just different after you have your first baby, especially if it's early on, that's not there anyway. And then you can't have all these foods, you're tired, you're trying to breastfeed, your nipples are falling off, and then here I'm going to say, “Now take all these things out of your diet.” That is a hard thing.


Bri Hurlburt  9:17  

And then the visual component of seeing your baby itchy, in pain, uncomfortable, it looks terrible. Moms who have babies with eczema also get all the comments. Moms do anyway, but when you have a baby that looks like that sometimes, people make a lot of assumptions. Sometimes give a lot of unsolicited advice. And so you have that all on overdrive. You have to, a lot of times, heavily prepare food. Granted, in an ideal world, we would all prepare really good healthy food but when you have to read labels, grocery shopping takes forever. The rest of your family has to eat like that or you have to cook separately.   It's layers. Layers of this.  


I typically am like listen, unless there's an active, obvious trigger, or aside from a true anaphylactic allergy, I tell moms who come to me, if you've not already cut food out, use the remedies first. If we got to a point where you need a little, or you could maybe help alleviate some of that by cutting out foods, but you might see a lot of progress without doing that. Often that's what happens. I actually don't know that I've ever had to have anybody cut out foods with the exception of a couple who had severe actual anaphylactic type allergies to things.


Melissa Crenshaw  10:44  

Yeah, I've got a few clients whose babies are under two and they had eczema as a baby and worked with me. We cleared up the eczema and then now they're showing signs of asthma. But that was there. This is within a few months, right? Because they're still under two. This is within a few months of each other. It's like the layer came off and now here's this next thing. Let's get it up, too. Let's get it up and get it out, too. Does that make sense? 


I believe, I don't know which entity it is, The American Academy of Pediatrics, whoever they are, I think they call the eczema, allergy, asthma trio ... Oh, what do they call it? They call it something because they know that those three things go together. What  allopathy says is if the parents had it, then the kids are going to have it and all future generations are going to have it. That's that miasmatic aspect. What are you seeing? And


Bri Hurlburt  12:03  

This is so interesting. I just literally Googled here, and I know you guys, I mean most people who listen aren't going to be annoyed by that because I'm looking to make sure this is a good source. But I'm seeing just at a first glance, some of these AAP things or clinical studies showing that in general infants with eczema are more likely to develop asthma than unaffected infants. About 30% of babies with eczema go on to develop asthma, and up to 80% of kids with eczema get hay fever or asthma later in childhood. 


Melissa Crenshaw  12:45  

Yeah. So let's uproot it with homeopathy. We talked about the allergies and the asthma that can come later and that often does. And thank you for looking that up. 


The other thing that we see is behaviors. ADHD-like behaviors. The hyperactivity. I'm just going to look at my notes here. There's a really common theme of behaviors that I see, especially in boys, but it is even in girls. ADHD. Easily bored.  Impulsive, reckless behavior. Physically restless. Destructive.  Violent. Defiant. Low self esteem. These children are very much worse to be told no. And it's like a switch usually. I see these parents come and say, “This is very different. This is not the child that I had the first two or three or four or five years. Something happened.”  And then they start searching for what happened. I want to say, from a homeopathic standpoint, we don't have to know the etiology. We're just going to use the remedies that match the symptom picture, and it's going to work. It's going to help. Those are the kinds of behaviors.


Can you think of any other behaviors?  Lots of fear.  Anxiety.


Bri Hurlburt  14:33  

I think you’ve covered … All the ones I'm thinking of are all the ones you already said. I think it's destructive or hyperactive, ADHD. Difficult behavior. Things that are should not be normal. And those are more extreme. I did find the name of your thing, I think. 


Melissa Crenshaw 14:54

Okay. 


Bri Hurlburt 14:55

The atopic triad.


Melissa Crenshaw  14:56  

I knew it was atopic but then I second guessed myself. 


Bri Hurlburt 15:01  

The progression typically begins with eczema, followed by food allergies, and then the development of asthma and allergic rhinitis, like hay fever. Doctors call this progression Atopic March. These are from medical news articles, research articles, that I found, published things. So it’s not even just in the crunchy world that this is being seen.


Melissa Crenshaw 15:23

Right.


Bri Hurlburt  15:25  

The interesting part is, even though that's a link, we still see so much suppression.  There are very little resources available for really attacking the source of these things. 


Melissa Crenshaw  15:44  

We've seen some really bad eczema cases.  We talk to these moms personally, right? We talked to them on Zoom. We see their babies.  We talk to them on the phone.  We hear the despair in these mom's voices because you can imagine, as a mom, what it must feel like to see your baby really suffering like this. Very often parents will do anything, even if it's steroids, or antibiotics, because they just can't … It's too much to bear. Sometimes it's the mom that wants to hang in there, but the dad's like, “Absolutely not. We're not doing this. You need to go to the doctor.” And then sometimes it's both parents. 


What I want to encourage you with is that homeopathy works, jump on it soon. So as soon as you see a patch, get in touch with us.  


I just want to specifically tell you guys how good Bri has gotten at this. She's seen a lot of baby eczema cases. She's getting really good at it. And she knows the remedies. And when I say baby eczema, hear me … Eczema is eczema. It doesn't matter if we're talking about an older child, a teenager or an adult, male or female, but the time to jump on it is as soon as it pops up. 


My daughter, eczema popped up on her face just in the last six to eight months. She’s 17.  That's kind of different. There's something happening in her immune system. 


Bri Hurlburt  17:25  

I have seen it a few times in some adult clients of mine, weirdly on their hands. Most of the time I'm seeing it on hands.


Melissa Crenshaw  17:33  

Yes, I did that. Man, that was five to eight years ago, I believe. So my ring.  It was really worse on my ring finger and that finger.  I worked at the hospital so I had to wrap my finger because I had to wash.


Bri Hurlburt 17:53

Wash it so much.


Melissa Crenshaw 17:53

In and out. In and out.  I had to do that between every patient. I covered both fingers with manuka honey patches. There would be manuka honey.  Tegaderm is what we called it in the hospital but it's the clear bandage that is waterproof. I would put that on in the morning around both fingers and then go all day long, and even washing it would be fine. That was really just protection.  That didn't heal it. Homeopathy healed the thing, but also soap. 


Bri Hurlburt  18:29  

I was going to say that, too.  There are some topical things, hands especially.  We found any liquid soap irritates.  People will say I've tried everything natural, unscented.


Melissa Crenshaw 18:41

All the clean soaps.


Bri Hurlburt 18:44

We'll probably get there when we get into some protocols for a couple of the other suggestions we give. 


I did want to add two things before we get into protocols or if you have anything else before them, too.  One is there is obviously a gut link here, which is why you see that progression to the eczema … Skin period is usually the first thing to present in most people, so especially babies it's going to be one of your first things. And then it just gets deeper in the body. But it's gut, which is why probiotics do help. Less foods that cause inflammation does help. Don't think those are bad things. What we're saying is just do it in tandem or you might not have to do them. It could save you some of that work. 


And then also if you're a parent who has already gone through the antibiotics, lots of steroids, topical steroids, just know, I hope you know, or if you're just listening to us for the first time, no judgment at all. I have seen these babies at a point where moms are like, “I just need some relief fast.” Of course.  Homeopathy will still work. Don't be discouraged or think you're ever too far gone. It can still work. Just so you know.


Melissa Crenshaw  20:06  

Exactly, yeah. No judgment.  I just want to encourage you not to carry guilt or shame over your past choices.  We, as moms and parents, do the very best that we can do with the information that we have right now. That's all we can do. When my oldest was little I fully believed that going to the doctor, getting all the vaccines, getting all the antibiotics, doing all of those things that the doctor told me to do, I believed that that was the very best I could do for him. It led us through some pretty bad gut health issues, which led us to homeopathy, but please don't carry guilt or shame. 


Just backing up a little bit to the liquid soap. I just want to make sure you women hear that. It's the liquid soap. It doesn't matter how clean your soap is. It doesn't matter how unscented and how pure your soap.  It doesn't matter if you make it at home. I don't know why. It's the liquid soap. I use a Bronner's Baby something. The baby one.  It comes in the blue. Dr. Bronner's. 


Bri Hurlburt  21:20  

It says sensitive, unscented.


Melissa Crensaw 21:22

It’s a bar soap.


Bri Hurlburt 21:24

Oh, the bar soap.


Melissa Crenshaw  21:25  

Yeah, the bar soap.  That's what I use. A lot of people think that's really gross to wash your hands with bar soap. It is in my kitchen. I'm the only one that uses it.  How did we live all those hundreds of years with just bar soap?


Bri Hurlburt  21:41  

I also have seen people switch to goat milk soap and that works really well. I don't know what's in Dr. Bronner's. I like Dr. Bronner's, too. I guess I'm not really a person who cares that much about washing my hands unless I have raw meat on them or I’m changing a lot of diapers or something. I know it can be inconvenient, but I have seen that be really huge in people's healing alongside the remedies. One lady even started bringing it to work with her, her soap.  Because she washes her hands a lot at work, she started bringing her own soap. Do what you got to do.


Melissa Crenshaw  22:24  

I love that you just said that you're not too worried about washing your hands because I'm not either. I mean, really.  Unless I have something serious on them, there’s not a lot.


Bri Hurlburt  22:34  

I know a lot of people probably think that's gross, but I have a decent immune system, I'd like to think.


Melissa Crenshaw 22:40

Exactly.


Bri Hurlburt 22:42

A little bacteria. I'm like, man, you got to have a little bit in there.


Melissa Crenshaw  22:44  

You know what I always think.  If for some reason I need to wash my hands then sometimes I'll think, I'll just have this picture remembering Jesus and all of them, they just like stuck their hands in a bowl of water, if they did that, right?


Bri Hurlburt  23:03  

They probably shared that whole bowl of water.


Melissa Crenshaw  23:06  

Okay, so back to eczema. 


Bri Hurlburt  23:11  

I have another suggestion that I will throw in here for whoever's listening. You had mentioned … it made me think of it. Manuka honey is one of the best topical things. I've never had an adult use it on her hands. That's so smart. But for babies, that or vitamin E oil. I will say be careful about where you source the vitamin E oil, look at where they get it, because some is from soybean, some is from other things. If you know your child reacts to certain food, don't get it from those sources. But manuka honey, it creates a barrier. It is sticky, but it prevents the itching.  It is very healing. It's antibacterial. It keeps it clean. It keeps it from itching. It keeps it moist without a lot of the additives that other things have.  I've seen people love that and use it often.


Melissa Crenshaw  24:11  

I love it. Since you brought that up, I am going to also mention here … I'm looking at my notes to see what the name of it is. I'm going to link this in the podcast notes. In the description of this, whether you're watching on YouTube or under the podcast, there is a company.  Why can I not find it? There it is. There's a company that I love that has eczema sleeves and eczema cream that I believe is … Again, it's beneficial. I'll link the company.  I'll put it in the show notes. I believe it's beneficial but, of course, it's not going to uproot anything. 


I also really like organic shea butter. Raw.  Raw, organic shea butter is a great replacement for lotion. Shea butter can be so thick though.  If it's painful or super itchy, the friction might be worse on that eczema, but there are some really creamier shea butters, so you can find a creamier one to rub on. Also, shea butter kind of melts like coconut butter so you could put some on and just let it sit there for a couple of minutes and then lightly spread it. 


Bri Hurlburt  25:44  

We do have you use some of these things because in the healing process you can use some of those that are not suppressive because you're not going to see the quick recovery like you see, pretend improvement I should say, with steroids.  You put it on there and their skin clears up pretty quickly for a short amount of time. Homeopathy works slower, which means you might want a little bit of relief from the itching or the dry skin or something like that in the meantime.


Melissa Crenshaw  26:16  

I also like Calc Phos 6x mixed with aloe vera gel used topically. You can do that. 


Bri, I would like to, before we end, and I do want to give the Banerji protocol for eczema, but before we do that, do you have a story or two of clients that you've seen because I just want people to know you’re really getting to be an expert at this. I want to hear if you have a story or two.


Bri Hurlburt  26:48  

I feel like this is one that I see really… And maybe this is why I love it so much. I see a lot of improvement in that first eight weeks. In children and kids, or babies, it's much quicker.  Adults with eczema, it still works, but it is slower. I think I see more of that spiral we've talked about, two steps forward one step back. 


With babies … Gosh, they're also similar, but one I remember just seeing pictures of this little baby on the video. I think it was extra sad because it covered his cheeks. I'm pretty sure it started more on his trunk and thigh/groin area. It looked probably like more of the typical eczema that you see where it’s the patches, the raised patches, as opposed to … There is eczema that presents in the cracks first, and I'll maybe do that one next. This little baby's face, it looked really sore and painful and would ooze a little bit, and then he would scratch until it bled, just scratching, rip open those sores as his body was healing. At his first follow up … I can't remember what exactly the protocol. That's something we're going to talk about, but we sometimes do protocols.  There are times where I'll do a protocol in tandem with another remedy or honestly, I would say it's 50/50 where I'm choosing a specific remedy for the case that is more fitting.


His first follow up, tremendous improvement. a lot of times I'll see it move from the trunk to the arms or legs. It can be concerning, but to me that is usually the progression of healing, it’s moving out to the limbs. His back and belly were almost totally clear. His diaper area was clear. He had a little bit of patches on the back of his legs and arms. His cheeks were still irritated because, as you know, as scabs heal, they get itchy. Then we were kind of brainstorming.  Is this the eczema? The rest of his body looked so much better just in that first eight weeks. We were thinking maybe the scabs are also getting itchy as they heal. And that's where the manuka honey was amazing for this baby. She used those eczema little sleeves over his hands at night.  He was a little baby so he would just claw. And manuka honey on his face. 


At the second follow up, the rest of his body, she said that you could hardly tell this baby ever had eczema on his body. His cheeks were I would say 80% healed so it really was that itching.  We added a remedy for itching and then the manuka honey topically.  That was within two follow ups. 


Melissa Crenshaw  29:51  

So cool.  So that's like 16 weeks?.


Bri Hurlburt  29:58  

Yeah.  I will say what often happens is you see a good amount of progress and then maybe a day or two of a flare in there. And then the same thing.  A two or three week progress, and then maybe a couple of days where you notice little patches that show up. But by the time that a lot of people with an infant come back at eight weeks, or a toddler, there is such significant improvement. 


Then there was the other type, and I want to share this one because it presents a little differently.  The cracks. I see those at the ear lobes, or they’ll be on their hands.  Wrists.  Ankles. Elbows.  Behind the knee. And it's eczema, usually really itchy, but just a totally different presentation.


Those I'll typically use a different remedy. And those can be really painful because they'll dry, crack and ooze. I feel like that one was really within the first eight weeks, they were almost totally healed. He developed some on other parts of his body that weren't those cracks, so it kind of shifted and moved, and then we switched remedies at that point. But I would say, and I don't tell all my clients this because I don't want to give anybody this false hope. Homeopathy does take time. But I see tremendous, tremendous improvement, almost every single first follow up, within eight weeks. By the second follow up, it's just cleaning up. I rarely have people go beyond that with horrible eczema. So that one little baby had other things come up, like we're pushing out. 


Melissa Crenshaw  31:57  

Yeah, that's so good. The encouraging piece here is start early, as soon as you see any patches or cracks. No, we can't promise everybody it’s going to be 16 weeks, but imagine 16 weeks of dealing with it, working through it, doing whatever, manuka honey, the eczema sleeves, whatever you can do to help the baby be comfortable for 16 weeks versus steroids, antibiotics. Destroy the gut even more than it already is. 


Bri Hurlburt 32:39

It always comes back. 


Melissa Crenshaw 32:41

Yeah, it always comes back. And that's what I see, too.  People will come to me and say, “Here we are, again.  We’re looking for something different this time.” But then you have asthma and allergies and the behaviors.  You're looking at the next 10 years or more, maybe even 15 years,  of dealing with all the other things that come up as a result.  Just treating baby eczema with homeopathy isn't going to promise you a perfect child, but you can eliminate a lot of these things that happen just from using homeopathy. 


Let me give you guys the Banerji protocol and this is straight from the Banerji protocol book written by the Banerjis.  The only reason I feel okay giving you this from the book is that you can find this for free online, and their clinics are free. If you go to the Banerji clinic online, you can find these protocols there, too, and they’ll help you.  You can always email them and they might help you online. S


Atopic dermatitis is what they call it and it is on page 49. The first line protocol is Hepar sulph 200C one dose every alternate day, Arsenicum album 200C two doses daily. This may be repeated with two or three doses every day in case of acute itching. Coffea cruda 200C to be given for relief at the time of too much itching and particularly for sleep at night if itching prevents sleep. In case of acute infection with ulceration they say to use Psorinum 1M in liquid, one dose, should be repeated every 15 days. This often gives relief followed by complete cure. Along with this Coffea cruda 200C, one dose every one hour as needed may be used to stop excessive itching. So I read that verbatim. Well, pretty close. I said 1M instead of 1000C. 


Bri Hurlburt  34:56  

It was verbatim.  I read it with you.


Melissa Crenshaw  34:59  

I read it from the Banerji protocol book and you can buy this. Where would we have them buy this, Bri?


Bri Hurlburt  35:07  

Taproots. Dr. Ullman’s website has it. You can get it on Amazon. Dr. Ullman’s clinic does send the Banerjis money so they get a portion.  You know when you buy from Amazon, who knows who's getting the money? 


Melissa Crenshaw  35:34  

Bri, you talked to him personally? To his office? 


Bri Hurlburt  35:38  

Yeah.  So, there was that concern about the misprinted copies and that they're not real. As far as they told me, that was a misprinted copy in 2019. They stopped putting the hologram because there were issues with pages sticking or certain things like that, she said, in the printing process. So mine, it does not have a hologram. It does not have that. She said this printed copy was in 2019. They're going to sell them till they're out of them. Dr. Ullman went through and compared the two and came up with a document of all the changes. If you want that, you can email me or Melissa.  We have that document.  Or Dr. Ullman’s office.  They send that with each of their books that you order, is what she told me. So don't be concerned. I ordered mine off Amazon to see and I still got the document from Dr. Ullman’s office, and it is just fine. Most of the misprints are “the” was printed incorrectly.  They're mostly minor. I would feel comfortable buying it off Amazon if that's easier. Dr. Ullman’s, you can support what they're doing. Both of those are good options. 


Melissa Crenshaw  37:05  

Awesome. Very good.


If you want to work with me or Bri for your baby eczema or any eczema, go to my website, melissacrenshaw.com.  Under make appointment schedule your free 15 minute phone call. When you go to schedule that, when you look at my schedule, as of the date of this recording, you'll see I can't get a free 15 minute phone call for like eight weeks or something.  Don't worry about that.  Go ahead and schedule it and then after you schedule that, there's going to be a pop up or an email, one or the other, that's going to give you the option to fill out an appointment request form to bypass that free 15 minute phone call. If you fill out the appointment request form, I'm going to get it immediately. I'm going to review it within a day or two and then I'm going to email you the options to work with me or Bri so that you can get started much sooner. I think that's a point of confusion for some people. I don't know how much more clear to make it but I think when people go and see two months before the free 15 minute phone call, they stop short.  If you go ahead and schedule it, you'll get the option to do the acute. 


Bri Hurlburt  38:33  

It’s almost an expedited way, but it is important that we have people do that initial, either the phone call. some people really want that or need that.  It also does help us.  We want to make sure people do understand the expectation, what to expect and how it works, but then what kind of issues you're dealing with. I take some of them. Melissa sends them to me, and then you take some that are probably just what you are … I mean what do you specialize in? Everything else.


Melissa Crenshaw  39:07  

You guys, when you get that email, you’ll have a choice of consults. You can just choose. You can choose if you want to work with Bri, you'll be able to see her sooner. If you want to work with me, my options are there. So really, I just give everybody … It's just your choice. Just choose whichever one of us you want.  


Bri Hurlburt  39:27  

And there are a lot of options, so you'll have a lot of choices. I hope that was encouraging.


Melissa Crenshaw  39:33  

Yeah, I hope so too.  Please make homeopathy the major part, the main part of your care plan when you've got a child or a baby or person with eczema. This is just one last quick point.  We talked about the inherited gut as part of a reason why baby could get eczema. I did a whole miasms class. That's on my website. I'll link that in the show notes, also.  I'll link the eczema company for the eczema sleeves and cream. We'll just look forward to hearing from you.  Share this with a young mama whose baby is suffering. Jump on it fast. 


Thank you for listening. Thank you for being here to talk through eczema with me, Bri, and we'll see you guys next time.


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