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Homeopathy At Home with Melissa
I am a Registered Homeopath and Lactation Consultant who loves Jesus and believes in the power of prayer in healing and restoration. God designed our bodies to heal themselves. We interfere with the body’s abilities by introducing medications which stop the action our bodies were made to do - heal! Homeopathy comes in and stimulates the immune system to help the body remember how to heal itself. ALL people are welcomed here, no matter your beliefs! I discuss mostly homeopathy here, but also I bring an encouraging word from the Lord and touch on the topics of parenting, homeschooling, marriage, and nutrition. Welcome to my world! It’s a beautiful, healthy life!
Homeopathy At Home with Melissa
Sepia: Insights and Practical Tips
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Can a simple homeopathic remedy transform your emotional well-being and intimate relationships? Join us on "Homeopathy at Home with Melissa," where we uncover the powerful impact of Sepia, particularly for women who have been on birth control from a young age. We'll explore Sepia's extensive profile in the Materia Medica, emphasizing the importance of starting with lower potencies like 6C to avoid aggravations and ensure a gentle healing process. Hear personal stories and expert insights on how to navigate potential side effects and maximize the benefits of this incredible remedy.
Ever wondered how birth control might be affecting your relationship and mental health? We'll explore the broader implications of hormonal and non-hormonal birth control methods, shedding light on how they can influence feelings of repulsion towards partners, irritability, and even marital satisfaction. Understanding these hormonal effects can assist in managing feelings of unjustified shame and relationship issues. We delve deep into the postpartum emotional challenges many women face, discussing the irrational feelings of anger and detachment and how Sepia can help alleviate symptoms of postpartum depression, anxiety, and physical conditions like incontinence.
Lastly, we introduce the "Start, Stop, Continue" exercise as a transformative tool for enhancing relationships and fostering personal development. Learn how Melissa and her husband Kyle use this method to communicate effectively, support each other, and promote positive behaviors within their family. This episode is packed with actionable insights and heartwarming personal experiences, offering a holistic approach to managing hormonal imbalances and improving emotional well-being through homeopathy and effective communication. Tune in and discover how to enhance your life and relationships with the wisdom shared in this episode.
Welcome back to homeopathy at home with Melissa. Hey, Melissa.
Speaker 2:Hey Brie, I am really excited to talk about sepia today. It's such a big remedy.
Speaker 1:And it's so one that I feel like we commonly see in practice with clients, but also in classes because, there are a lot of women, so, naturally, and also because of how many women my generation, I don't know about yours too, but on birth control, since we were like middle schoolers. So we'll get into all that, yeah, but Materia Medica Monday, we're going to do sepia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sepia is such a big remedy. You know, if you go to your Materia Medica and you open up sepia, it's pages long and it really is kind of overwhelming how big sepia is. So what I want to do with this is just like we always do with the Materia Medica Monday give you the keynotes, but also let's talk a little bit about it, because it's such a big remedy for women. Um, that's used so often and, um, most women know sepia, right, they're. They're like oh yeah, you know, that was the first remedy I ever tried, right, it was my first remedy, the first remedy I ever tried. Right, it was my first remedy. The first remedy I was ever on was sepia, and I do suggest starting low and slow.
Speaker 2:So if you heard my podcast from the summer of 2020, that's been a long time ago I did used to do sepia Sunday. I used to do sepia 200 once per week. I actually in that podcast said once or twice per week and there's nothing wrong with that. So if you're doing that now or you've done that before, there's no danger. That's the beauty of homeopathy there's nothing dangerous, there's nothing terrible. You didn't mess anything up. But the reason I stopped doing that and now I'm doing. Usually I'll start with 6C once or maybe twice per day. The reason I changed is because I started to see women aggravating on 200C in different ways, and so we've got a whole podcast on aggravations versus proving. So if you don't know what I'm talking about, please go listen to that. So I don't like to cause aggravations and of course it's not me that's causing it but when I suggest a high potency remedy and then you have an aggravation, I feel bad. I don't want you to do that. I don't want to be aggravated.
Speaker 1:Can I piggyback on that? Because, from like a different perspective too, I did the 200. I did aggravate some. Let's say that I was using it once per week or twice per week. It was working great and it really just became apparent that it was time to back off. And it really just became apparent that it was time to back off and I didn't in time. Mine were mental symptoms. But what I will say and this is why I personally am comfortable with aggravations, because I like to call them accelerations I stopped it and I was 100% better Like I had. I didn't have to take it again or um, or didn't have any of those recurring symptoms for a long time where I think sometimes um, to avoid any aggravating, it is a little bit slower, a little bit longer of a process, more comfortable, more gentle. So you know, most people prefer that. I prefer that for clients. Um, personally, I didn't love when I experienced it, but it was short, maybe a week or two, and then I was totally fine.
Speaker 2:So you are like that you are like that, like with with um Bella Donna. You're like, yeah, just do it. And you threw, you know, throw me into the high fever, get it over with and you're done. And so, you know, my husband's like that with being nauseous or vomiting. He's like, oh, I'd rather just do it, get it over with. I'm like, nope, I'd rather, I'd rather feel bad for three days. Then.
Speaker 1:So I had this a friend of mine use Nux Vomica. She was. She was vomiting, used Nux Vvomica and it almost like she purged a bunch of times following that and then was fine, but she was. I mean, I think it would traumatize her for real. She was like I never want to use Exvomica again and I literally am like great, got it out of me.
Speaker 2:Moving on from there, and I'm the same, like when you're, when we're talking about sepia and aggravating. I also aggravated on sepia 200 and um no, I would always rather go slow and not have the aggravation. It's so funny. So it's personality. And and and that's the beauty of homeopathy too is the aggravations aren't dangerous. You can stop it if you don't like it, and that's really what I want to say.
Speaker 1:You don't have to. It didn't? I wasn't in a bad place, it didn't cause me to. I mean, it wasn't like I was depressed or in a really bad mental state and I knew what was happening. I knew, oh, I just need to take less of this, and so I did. But you could even have antidote it if I wanted. I just didn't right so. But you don't have to be afraid of it. I coming out the other side, it works well, and so just don't worry. Even if you do aggravate, just adjust exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right, so you have less of a chance of aggravating on a 6c. So if you're like me, then, um, then, then you know, start with a 6C, and so let's talk about when what's. I know, you know this and a lot of people know this, so let's just get this right on out of the out of the way. What's the number one reason, or the you know the the thing that if you've ever done this in your life, then you're probably going to need sepia, synthetic birth control. Yes, yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You don't think that almost anyone. If you've ever done that and have hormone or even mental symptoms that maybe you don't know are hormonal.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Start with sepia.
Speaker 2:Man, so Dr Murphy taught me about what birth control does.
Speaker 1:It's awful.
Speaker 2:You know, that's probably what we should have. What we should have been ready to talk about is birth control and what it does and how awful it is. Did we talk about that? And maybe the acne podcast at all?
Speaker 1:I don't remember I feel like we have touched on birth control all over, but here's the thing too, with birth control now there are so many types that the terminology becomes different one that's just progesterone, one that's both, one that's copper that the terminology chain has changed. The options have grown, um, and so they, some of them, feel less invasive or less disruptive to your body. Um, but in reality, um, all of those options are introducing synthetic hormones into your body, often at a young age, because you're trying, I mean, for a painful period. I just, I even think birth control I mean, this is just from what I have experienced, so this is not true data that I'm sharing but 50-50 in my experience has been for painful periods and preventing pregnancy. Like, I almost see it more just to avoid getting a period or having painful periods or acne at a very young age, before people are even concerned about pregnancy. So, anyway, got on my little rant. So birth control, yeah.
Speaker 2:Don't do it. You know. It's also like you said earlier. It affects women mentally, even on into the future. So there is a correlation between the divorce rate, the higher divorce rate and the introduction and the higher use of birth control pills.
Speaker 2:And Dr Murphy talked about how well, what happens and this is these are symptoms of sepia. What happens is the woman is especially after birth, so after she gives birth to her first child, and this is, these are sepia things, this is not birth control thing, but when you've been on birth control, this is what usually happens, and then sepia is the great remedy. After she gives birth, after she gives birth to her first child, then she suddenly is like to her husband, repulsed Don't touch me, don't talk to me, you can say nothing, right? You can do nothing, right? I don't like you, I don't like your look, I don't like the way you smell, I don't like the way you're. I mean all these little you know what? What would?
Speaker 2:We would be called nitpicking or nagging things, right, because now we're so mentally turned off by him and everything he does where that wasn't the case before. But listen, it's, it's not him. Your hormones change and you know, and it's also. Don't want to. Please don't hear me say it's all your fault. And you? You know your hormones changed something, shifted, they were artificially messed with with the, with the birth control, then you had a natural process of getting pregnant and that. Then your hormones do all these things. And then, after birth, your hormones do all these things and then regulate and it's and then it's very disruptive.
Speaker 1:And that's not even just sexually speaking, that is even being around him. So it may result in a really low libido or literal no libido at all, um, or even um. I've had clients and even my own experiences with like your body does not respond to arousal anymore, like, even if mentally, but your, your body physically, is not responding, um, but either way, not just sexually but just emotionally, very repulsed and disgusted specifically by the husband and um the rage toward kids or husband, and that one. I don't know if you I feel like you had to have heard this from people, if I've heard it so much that there I can tell when they're trying to share this that they're very ashamed, like don't want to share that, and say how angry they be. They feel internally because there are not outside factors that should make them feel that angry, right.
Speaker 2:And so so these women come and well, first of all, even backing up a little bit more. A lot of them, when I ask about birth control, they say yes, um, and they quickly feel like they have to say why. Because there is this, there's this element of shame that comes with it and and, ladies, I don't want you to, I just, you don't need to feel that, you just don't. We, we were doing what we thought was right back then. We didn't know, you know the consequences. And here we are. You're doing better, right, yeah, but then, yeah.
Speaker 2:So then when we start talking about the relationship, well, when somebody tells me how low their libido is, low or no then I want to know how's your relationship with your husband, right? Sometimes they say it's great, he's great, I love him, he's amazing. Well, I guess, either way, it's still hormonal. But if we, if we can take the relationship piece out, you know you've got a good relationship, but there's still no libido. There's just a different way to look at it. Whereas if they're, if their relationship is really bad, then that has the mental, emotional piece too, and it may be because you're so turned off by him and everything he does, and that may just be hormonal. It also might be that he's a terrible person. I mean, you know, that could happen.
Speaker 1:So I think the obvious yeah, you can't use homie, I can't take homie off to fix that yeah, right. But it's very obvious when you have and that was some of our situation I have an amazing husband, super helpful, really respectful of me, even postpartum, and I remember thinking I can't stand being near him and knowing that is irrational. He's I mean just being there or hearing him. It's just there was some smell. It wasn't like his cologne, but there was like after he'd work out, which in a normal me smells fantastic. Yeah, yeah. So, um, yeah, I've experienced that and I think I told you it was really obvious, sepia, well, I didn't see. You told me, even though I knew it in my mind, my kids would do something and I would be angry. I was just so I felt I should say like very angry and also, at the same time, knowing that there's nothing happened here. They're not doing anything extra bad or loud or crazy. So there are some really obvious indicators. But, um, what other mental emotionals come to mind for you?
Speaker 2:So I'll you know, like I said, I? Um CPO was my first remedy. I? Um sepia was my first remedy, um. I was not married back then when I you know, when she um decided on sepia for me but I had all of the rage that you can imagine. But even you know intimate well, as a teenager I had the rage. So I mean even before you know, giving birth the first time, um, but I?
Speaker 1:I was put on birth control pills early on, early in teenage years, or like your periods, or acne, or what was it for Pregnancy?
Speaker 2:Birth control.
Speaker 1:That's right Okay.
Speaker 2:Um, and so you know I mean, but listen, that was what you did back then. I mean you, you know, my mom finds out what I'm doing and she's like, oh, let's go.
Speaker 1:That's so really common. I mean, I just was talking to a mom who knew her daughter's 16 and she's like I'm taking her to the doctor soon getting her on birth control just to prevent anything. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's hard, that's so hard. I just, I mean, I'm just thinking about me as a mom of a daughter. I mean, yeah, I, I don't know, I don't know what, how I would, because I know all the terrible things of birth control and then I know the consequences of sex outside of marriage and I'm just like that is the hardest of moms. My heart goes out to you If you have no judgment right now, none at all, I cannot.
Speaker 2:I mean, I mean I was, I was that one, and so you know, there I was and my mom's like Ooh, nope, no, we're not going to have any babies in high school. So we go and I get on birth control and then I had all the rage. So you asked about mental, emotional, and it was Well, I don't have to just tell about me, but CP in general has the, the. I can have the, the um irritation, like you said, with the children, so that you feel disconnected um to your family, or you feel indifferent that's the word I'm looking for so that indifference to your family, like I love them, but I just really don't care, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I felt that a lot too. Now that you're saying that, I remember telling a friend that I don't enjoy it. I felt so out, almost like I'm not present mentally, right, didn't have any joy, I wasn't depressed, I just felt zero emotion about being around my kids, like I used to find joy in that and love this time. Yeah, so also as the kids get older, I remember I don't know it was you in some class talking about sepia feeling like that weighed down, that weight mentally, um, like it's from the from above, though, right, like it weighs you down from above.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Is that? Yeah, I don't have that one memorized. Is that the one of sepia? So sepia has a pushing down. So that can be like you said, with the mental, emotional, you feel like you're like a cloud maybe or you're being pushed down. But that can also be the bladder, the. So CP has been before incontinence or um prolapse. Yeah, so if you feel bearing down weight down here, you know then not pulling down. So there's another remedy that feels where you feel pulled down but CP is pushed down, yeah, good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that how there's the link for both physical and mental picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um is it it's? It does have postpartum depression.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, man, I had postpartum depression so bad, and you didn't have sepia then no, and you didn't have sepia then no, no, oh, it was terrible. But I even got super depressed during the pregnancy and I think it was just during the first trimester, maybe I don't remember, but then postpartum was really bad. Postpartum depression, yes and no, I didn't start sep't, start CP until he was what, like three. So yeah, I didn't no-transcript, I was on Lexapro. I feel like I was on Lexapro before giving birth. I don't remember, but you know I did. I did that little Lexapro stint for a little. No, I what that was. Because I remember the homeopath saying oh, don't stop your Lexapro, you know we're going to wean off of this later. And I was like I'm done with that and I just stopped. And I was like I'm done with that and I just stopped taking it. You shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1:No, I don't. I get people always. Yeah, that's funny, but okay. So Lexo reminds me, though it can also be for anxiety. Oh yeah, so that anxiety was part of depression. And yeah, sorry, I'm like peak. I'm looking at my materi medica too to confirm as I'm thinking of things.
Speaker 2:But cp is worse for consolation as opposed to pulsatilla that likes that right yeah I don't want your business, I don't want you to do that don't touch me, don't look at me, don't try to, don't try to tell me that you, that you want to make me feel better. I need you just to get away. Also, I'm going to go and be by myself if I'm going to. Well, this was the sepia state. Right, I'm not in that state anymore. I just I'm remembering, I'm reminiscing of the sepia days. Um, I would, I would absolutely have to go by myself to cry, like don't, because I didn't want any consolation. That and I'm trying to remember um, that really made me feel worse. It made me feel small or stupid, like why can't I control my own feelings? You know why can't? But that was so ridiculous If you think about it, like what's wrong with being mad or angry or crying, you know? But I felt like I had to be perfect, so I couldn't do those things, so I had to go alone.
Speaker 1:I didn't want your consolation and that pressure to like you're doing so much for your family, there's all this stuff to get done, like making yourself feel that way, but then also that feels like a weight because there's never, you're never getting it all done.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what I was going to go to next, so you just bridged it. The CPO woman she ruminates in and she thinks about how her husband never helps, he doesn't do enough. He gets to go to work all day while I'm stuck at home. Cpo likes the career.
Speaker 1:They know this is interesting in that sepia state because I always wanted to stay home. But I, as you're saying these words, I remember thinking that exact thing, like Kyle going to work, and I'm like this is so unfair. He gets, gets to go. Well, I'm sitting here, I want to do what I'm doing, but I am mad about it that I'm sitting here doing this and that is out of character for me. So could it be a woman like that in her natural state but angry now?
Speaker 2:or I was where.
Speaker 1:That's not my natural state, but I'm feeling that way.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Yeah, you know, another side to that is just like the, all this indifference with the children. I never had that. I wanted my kids around me with me, hugging, loving, kissing, like what are we doing today? What are we going to like? Be close to me, I want to see everything you do. I want to talk to you all the time. I never felt indifferent towards my children it was only him.
Speaker 2:And so the you know she, she also feels like she never gets a break. She just she never gets a break. She has to do everything. All the responsibility falls on her shoulders and if somebody does come and try to do something to help her, they can't do it right, so she might as well do it herself. She's convinced that she hates her husband and would be better off without him during PMS, but then, after the cycle ends, she's okay.
Speaker 2:But listen, here's the other part of it that it says this in the Materia Medica, and I remember feeling this. I remember in the moment PMS was terrible for me, absolutely terrible, and PMS shouldn't be so bad. But birth control definitely makes it worse. So I remember being in the PMS state and really being nasty, just ugly words and actions and in my mind thinking I do not want to be this way, I don't want to do this, I don't want to say these things that I say why am I? And then, after it's over, like I'm so sorry, I'm really sorry that I acted that way and I didn't want to and I couldn't stop it.
Speaker 1:It's like that cloud picture again, that your, your perspective is clouded but you like can't stop it, and then the cloud kind of lifts after you're through that hormonal phase. Um, okay, so lots of mentals. I also feel like, hormonally speaking, because it's such a big hormone remedy, this one I see for headaches you're probably getting to all of them, but hormonal headaches.
Speaker 2:Yep, In my 30s I started getting the monthly migraine, that hormonal headache. I didn't have them. I never had a single headache before then and yeah, so that's what sepia 200 weekly uprooted first for me. I stopped getting those headaches and man was that good. So, yeah, those monthly migraines or monthly, those hormonal headaches, sepia, I also would use sepia as needed. So I would do a third, a 60 or a 30 during the headache while I was doing my 200 once a week or whatever you know. However, I was doing that.
Speaker 1:Okay, um, what else do you have? I don't want to jump ahead on your list.
Speaker 2:That's all right, I'm just I'm not even going in order, I'm just looking at what I see. Um, sepia loves to dance, loves music and loves to dance. And so you know, would um, that's a question. You know that we can, we can ask people when we're trying to help them and, um, and sometimes women just just um volunteer that information that they just love to dance, that they've did that they will feel better if they go outside and dance or go in, whatever you know, just dance. So think about exercise. So if you're not a dancer type person, you don't like to dance.
Speaker 1:If you like to exercise, that's another one that movement. So sepia really feels better for exercise. Yeah, and I thought of the other kind of to go along with the hormonal headaches insomnia around some cyclically, whether that's a PMS week or during your period, that can be a big one, or what's it called menopause yeah, absolutely your hot flashes yep, oh yeah has so much everything you think of related to hormones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, has it somewhere and I think I had every single symptom that there was, and even um, skin stuff, right, like skin, skin tags, the dark spots on your skin, all of those things also linked now I mean we know some of these things to hormones yep cd covers those um so.
Speaker 2:Sepia also has a big liver remedy. We can't forget that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It can have constipation, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that could be used acutely even in males. This isn't just a female remedy.
Speaker 2:I think we use it way more often in females but it can definitely be used in males, often in females, but it can definitely be used in males. Um, and the male picture, the male, the male person who needs sepia, is the mom and the relationship. Um, and sometimes, um, these can be men who lost financial stability and are home with the children while the mom works, um, or maybe it's always been that way and then there was something else about the man, so it's a more feminine remedy, but it can be for the feminine type. You know the feminine man, who it, and especially if that's a hormone imbalance, you know, if he's got really low testosterone and maybe his voice is not, as you know, deep or whatever. And so we're not it's not like we're we're taking giving sepia to men just so they'll have a deep voice. It has to do with the hormone balance. But, yeah, it can be used for men and I have used it for men when it fits. Um, I have another one. Yeah, so the husband, okay, let me just say this Um, she expects her husband to see how hard she's working and what needs to be done and just jump in and do it, and she doesn't understand why he won't just jump in and help, just do what he can do, but he might not jump in because he sees she's absolutely capable, she gets everything done.
Speaker 2:He might even feel like he's not needed, and that's big, for men, um, often need to be needed. I mean, there are women that need to be needed too but but, um, you know, if you're totally capable, you can do everything yourself. And and you don't need. It looks that way, right, he doesn't know what you're thinking. Here's the thing with sepia is that we want you to know what we're thinking. I don't want to have to tell you, right, I want you just to know. Like, can't you see I'm running around here, I'm busy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, communicate. So a lot of the feelings of sepia are common feelings for any woman to experience at some point, I think, where the the sepia picture where you need some assistance is just like anything else, where you're stuck there, where you're feeling this but you're not communicating that, or you're letting it become anger and resentment. And, of course, sometimes they can't read our minds, so you have to say that out loud, you know, but in sepia mode I'm like I'm not telling him, I'm going to. He should just know I'm going to be mad, I'm sick and tired of this, but I don't want to do anything to help the situation. I think that's like. When I see that picture in myself, I feel stuck in that mentality. What about, though, women who've never had a baby, never been on birth control? There can still be symptoms that would point to sepia.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. So this can be used and I'm trying to find my note that I just saw about that this can be used in women who don't have children, so it could be like a teacher or a childcare worker. So this she might, and it doesn't have to be, but she might still have the that caregiver role even if she doesn't have children or she might not. So this might be, um right, you might not have any children, you might not have a husband, but if you have a hormone imbalance and or have ever been on birth control and you have these symptoms, you can still use it.
Speaker 1:So that could be weird periods, whether they're super painful or really heavy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Irregular. Yes, I will use sepia when a woman has menorrhagia, so ongoing, and or heavy bleeding. So you know, a 14 day or four week, six week period. Sepia can very gently and um and easily, Um, what I want to say like, yeah, I guess gentle is the is the right word, but very gently, stop. That. It's not like an abrupt, you know, hard stop, it can be, it can be gentle.
Speaker 1:Well, and I want to. I do want to make sure I clarify earlier, like I was okay with that taking CPNA 200 and saying it could work slower using it, less or lower potency. I don't think that that's been the case when using it, how you were saying 60 once or twice a day. You're still getting very consistent, more consistent stimulation, lower potency. I haven't. I don't feel like it has been slower, not that homeopathy is fast, but I didn't. I don't want it to sound like oh, now it's going to take a year when it's going to take it a month.
Speaker 2:I think I made.
Speaker 1:It might've made it sound like that I actually I haven't seen that I've been doing, using sepia like that and seeing it work very well, very well and not aggravating. So, this one. I love it. I love doing it and then I feel like more comfortable. There's somewhere to go. There's a 30 C to move to if we can or need to, or a 200 if you need that. Yeah, but um really good point.
Speaker 2:So don't, don't try, don't sit here and hear us and say, ooh, I don't, I want to, I want to rush it, so I'm going to use 200. That's not how it works anyway. Yeah, Good point. Um, yeah, so 6C is what I was on, you know, 20 plus years ago. That was my first remedy and so now I'm not on anything regularly. So I don't take remedies.
Speaker 2:You know, every single day I take remedies as needed, and when so I'm at the point of maybe once or twice per year I get into a sepia kind of feeling state, takes me, because it's been so long it takes me a little while to recognize it, and then I'm like, oh, I need a dose of sepia.
Speaker 2:I'll take one dose of sepia 6C and then I'm good because I think it's. I mean, if sepia is a constitutional remedy, I mean that's just like that is a really big remedy, for that has served me well over 20 something years and you know, going into menopause, hot flashes, it was the remedy. Yeah, and so now again, for me now it's just mental. You know, if I get into a sepia mental state I can just take a dose. So you might do that. You know you might need sepia 6C once or twice every day for a while, but then it might be a remedy that you revisit throughout the rest of your life, if it's a good remedy and that can be true for any remedy- Yep, so truly when we say sepiap is huge.
Speaker 1:I think we probably touched the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, there are eight or more pages in the in robin murphy's materia medica look at this um, no hand holding or snuggling.
Speaker 2:Sorry to kind of go backwards, but I just saw this Um can let's see good intellectual communicators but not good emotional communicators?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, that is kind of what we just said, huh.
Speaker 2:Oh, and this one yeah, this says they get more pleasure out of their children, and we'll hug them, you know, than their husband. One yeah, this says they get more pleasure out of their children and will hug them, you know, than their husband. So, yeah, Go ahead. Painful periods which we already touched on, but just confirming that's definitely in there and there is that oversensitivity to noise too with sepia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not the only one that's like that if you've listened to other podcasts, but that is a good one. The weak bladder prolapse, incontinence are really big. I have seen it work really really well for that of women of all ages.
Speaker 2:Yep, they're really independent. They don't ask for help really independent.
Speaker 1:They don't ask for help. Tired, drag and sag. Drag and sag what a way to describe myself. That sounds nice Desires, chocolate, sweets, wine, vinegar acids and pickles, the only thing when I was.
Speaker 2:chocolate and sweets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do love chocolate. Better exercise.
Speaker 2:Here's another good one. She doesn't want any intimacy, right, holding hands, snuggling, kissing, because she fears that then he'll want more. So she feels like that's all he ever wants from her. You know she doesn't need it, they don't so but if she, yeah, that's right. So if she gets too close or just snuggles, it can't just be a snuggle, it has to be more. And that, oh, here's what I wanted to say earlier is especially when we were talking about communication. Say earlier is especially when we're talking about communication.
Speaker 2:So homeopathy can help your mental state so that you can communicate the best way that you know how. But if you don't know how to communicate, you need help in another way. So you know, whether that be a counselor or a friend or some kind of a class or whatever you know. Learn that be a counselor or a friend or a, some kind of a class or a, whatever you know. Learn, we have to learn how to communicate well, and that might be a oh Bree. You should be talking about this. You're good at this. What is there a resource that you have to share with women who aren't good communicators with, especially maybe with their husband?
Speaker 1:I mean a specific resource. Does you have one in mind, a specific one?
Speaker 1:or no, I just um number one, I do think, counseling of some sort, whether that be a clinical counselor, but our. We have really great mentors who have modeled it in front of us and then, um, I don't like to say forced, because we willingly participate, but I mean we've had really awkward, weird, uncomfortable conversations in front of these mentors of ours, because we have been very committed to, for the sake of our marriage, I want to do this, and the more you do it, the less weird it is, the less weird it is. So I mean there were times we would literally have like sentences that we would practice, especially if he would practice sharing three emotions a day, it could be anything. So it sounds really toddler like, but for somebody who was not comfortable doing that, that became easy for him. It really is practice and being vulnerable. You just have to be willing to be weird at first and then it yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:You know, what I learned from somebody recently is start, stop and continue, and I know you and Kyle do that.
Speaker 1:That's a good one. You tell about that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Just make a um, you know, make a little list start, stop and continue and do that with each other. I think you said maybe you and Kyle used to do that, maybe on date night, once every a couple of times a year or something, I don't know. But, um, where you have, you write down what you want your husband to start, what you want him to stop and what you want him to continue to do. So you get, um, you know that continue is encouragement, that hey, you are doing these things, good and right, and I like for you to do these things, I want you to keep going. Start and stop was a little bit hard for me, Just because you know stop is like I didn't want to. I mean, you have to say the hard things. You know I want you to stop whatever it is, and then start, basically, was just opposite of stop. So what do you have advice on?
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is good, because look at us turning this into a little marriage counseling session. Yeah, right, and really you can use this for a lot. I mean, I think you guys even did it with your kids your older kids.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we did, I mean I love that.
Speaker 1:I never had thought to do that with our kids. I want to do that someday. Mean, I love that I never had thought to do that with our kids, I want to do that someday. But for maybe some help too, if you're just easing into it sometimes start would be like I would like you to start taking a night of the week to go do something for yourself. Well, that's a really nice thing to say to them.
Speaker 1:You know, like I mean and of course we were probably thinking of 10 other things that we'd like them to start in your mind also, but depending on where you're at, maybe he gets something out of that, that and whatever. One of the things um Kyle asked me once to stop doing was commenting on my body in front of our sons. So it wasn't even like a flaw, but he and he nicely was like this is something we talked about before we even had kids that you didn't love, that your mom did a lot, and I don't I know you don't want to be saying that in front of our boys a lot, so it just the way you word it like him encouraging me to be the kind of mom and woman I want to be, not like I want this from you or you're bothering me when you do this.
Speaker 1:So good and then yeah, continue is more of the encouragement, like a yeah, I found my little list, so this is um.
Speaker 2:I did grace cash, paul, and so organized. I love, I love doing stuff like that.
Speaker 1:We also made a rule we could only do one at a time. Did you do more than one?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sarah told us to do like, list it out, and we didn't talk, you know. But so, just like as a quick example for Grace, I had start using your creative flair more. Yeah, yeah, right. So that wasn't something for me to make me feel better, it was something I wanted her to to strengthen her. Yeah, stop worrying about your health. Again, that's something to help her be better, like in, to be stronger, and not something for me to make me feel better. It wasn't about me and, of course, this is with my children. So that's a little we're we're naturally encouraging to our children, right? So we're starting with the husband, um, and then continue, um, continue loving Jesus. Let me see what I said for Paul Um, start.
Speaker 1:Um start. I know we're like um, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, how about start spending quality time um with me and the kids? So, just, or more, maybe start spending more quality time with us, so that we're all together. Right Again, it wasn't just what. What can you do to make me feel good?
Speaker 1:You know some of these are truly, if you prefer, quality time and he doesn't like I mean, there are things. Kyle has asked that for me before because he loves when I sit with him while he might watch a show I don't care about, I'm not going to want to do that, but if he asks me I'm happy. Okay, sure, I can do that sometimes.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right. I love it so, like the five love languages. So if yours is gifts and his is touch and you know, then we might have to say that, like you, start giving me-. Like the quality time matters to you and the kids in a different way, that's right so it's not always insulting, but it's sometimes hard to hear yeah, that's right, um and um, continue working hard for us, so anyway, yeah that was so much.
Speaker 1:I love those. So we did do, though, the rule on especially if we did like, on a date night we could only say one thing and for each category, but we did it maybe once a month, every few months. We would think of it so more frequently.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And sometimes like for Grace's to not worry about her health so much. Sometimes those are things like okay, I can practically help you, and then also maybe she needs a remedy, right, like, how are we going to help them? Do that, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Wow, just got some bonus.
Speaker 2:So fun, so fun. I mean it's important you know to grow yourself and um, you know, and get the support and the help that you need outside of homeopathy. Homeopathy is not the miracle, um may the miracle worker or the way maker, jesus is. So so anyway, that was fun talking about sepia and getting into some, um practical tips, and I hope you all enjoyed this. Look forward to seeing you next time.
