Homeopathy At Home with Melissa

Gut Feelings: Understanding IBS and Leaky Gut

Melissa Crenshaw, RsHom, LCHE, IBCLC Season 6 Episode 1

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The gut is far more than just a food processor—it's intimately connected to our emotional well-being, nervous system function, and overall health. In this revealing conversation, Melissa and Bri unpack the complex relationship between our minds and digestive systems, offering insights that conventional medicine often overlooks.
The hosts dive deep into the world of Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) and leaky gut syndrome. What makes this episode particularly valuable is the exploration of how our nervous system directly influences digestive function.  The hosts explain how oversensitive nerve endings in the digestive tract can transform normal digestive processes into painful experiences, and why childhood emotional trauma often manifests as adult gut problems. The homeopathic approach shines here as Melissa and Bri detail specific remedies that address both physical and emotional aspects of digestive disorders. Listeners will discover targeted solutions that address root causes rather than just symptoms. Whether you've struggled with digestive issues for years or simply want to understand the fascinating gut-brain connection better, this episode offers compassionate insight and practical tools to support your journey toward true gut health. Your body is communicating—are you ready to listen?

Content credit: Information adapted from The Mayo Clinic:  Irritable Bowel Syndrome 

Information adapted from Dr Josh Axe Leaky Gut, How to Improve Gut Health NaturallyMost Common IBS Symptoms and What You Can Do About ThemDo I have SIBO Symptoms? Here is ALL You Need To Know! , Natural Treatment Plan for Celiac Disease Symptoms, Colon Cancer Symptoms and The Prevention Diet4 Steps to Overcome Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Information adapted from The National Library of Medicine: Leaky Gut as a Danger Signal for Autoimmune , The Intestinal Barrier and Current Techniques for the Assessment of Gut Permeability, Progression of intestinal permeability changes and alpha-synuclein expression in a mouse model of Parkinson's disease, Leaky gut: mechanisms, measurement and clinical implications in humans, Leaky Gut and Autoimmunity: An Intricate Balance in Individuals Health and Diseased State

Information adapted from Science Direct:  Potential mechanisms for the emerging link between obesity and increased intestinal permeability

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to Homeopathy at Home with Melissa. Hey, Melissa.

Speaker 2:

Hey Brie, Super excited to talk about some gut stuff today. I know people will be interested in this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we get a lot of questions about these things in particular, but before we get to our content, we have a fan mail.

Speaker 2:

Yay, I love fan mail.

Speaker 1:

This is pretty fun. I know we had a. They're all over the place too, so, um, some of them really specific, but we thought this was a good one for tonight. This one says hi. Well, this one's from union, missouri. So if you are from there, we don't have a name, just location. But they said hi, love your content. I'm learning so much. I'm looking for info on homeopathy for absence, seizures or staring in children and would love if you do a video on what remedies could assist that. Thanks.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So yes, we could actually do. We probably could do a podcast on, you know, just a whole episode on absent seizures, but and just what that looks like. That would just take some. Yeah, that would take some research and some some getting some stuff together. But I do want to just answer with a top choice for absent seizures in any age is Ignatia. I think I would just start with Ignatia without even knowing anything else, and that could be really helpful.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and that's a pretty safe remedy to use. I mean they're all safe, but I mean alone on your own.

Speaker 2:

Right, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Easy place to start.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, yep, okay, great question, and we get that a lot.

Speaker 1:

What about a potency?

Speaker 2:

I really so. Either 30 or 200. So you could do 30 once per day or 200 once per day If you really don't know. You know the sensitivity of your child or the person that you're helping, or you don't know how to choose. Always, what I always say is start low and slow when you don't know. So in something like this, that's chronic. 30 C every day, every day, because what? Even if the the occurrence is only every few weeks or every few months, we want. We want to correct it and uproot the whole condition. We're not going to give this acutely okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

so today, whenever you're, we're recording in the evening we're talking about IBS and leaky gut.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, ibs most people know it's irritable bowel syndrome and it's been around. The diagnosis itself has been around for a long time and I was just telling you, breeie, before we got on here started recording. I was diagnosed with IBS when I was 16. So that was a long time ago. I mean that was in the 80s. So I mean I guess it's not. I don't know when the diagnosis came about, but you know, I guess I'm saying that because it's not a new thing, even though a lot more people are being diagnosed with it or have it. It's not, it's not new.

Speaker 2:

And so I want to read from the Mayo Clinic. I do like to look up conditions and symptoms from the Mayo Clinic. I just like I like to do that, so I'm going to read. This is directly from the Mayo Clinic and it says IBS is a common condition that affects the stomach and intestines, also called the gastrointestinal tract. Symptoms include cramping belly pain, bloating gas and diarrhea or constipation or both.

Speaker 2:

Ibs is an ongoing condition that needs long-term management. Only a small number of people with IBS have severe symptoms. Some people can control their symptoms by managing diet, lifestyle and stress. More severe symptoms can be treated with medicine and counseling, and we're going to talk about that. Why counseling? We're going to get into that in a little bit. So of course the Mayo Clinic is an allopathic clinic. Of course they're going to say medicine, and then IBS does not cause changes in bowel tissue or increased risk of colorectal cancer. So you know a rest, a restful rest, assured. This is not. If you get a diagnosis of IBS, you're not at increased risk of cancer. All right, you want to talk about the symptoms? Go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I will, and I I wonder if that's um just knowing in the past, like I, had digestive issues in my teen years as well and friends of mine diagnosed with Crohn's or colitis and I it sounds like the difference there is those do have tissue change in the intestine where, like IBS, doesn't, so maybe that's how they rule out the other conditions. Yeah, okay, so symptoms of IBS may vary but are usually present for a long time, most commonly belly pain, cramping, bloating. That's related to passing stool, changes in appearance of the stool or how often that you are having a bowel movement. Other symptoms can also include feeling like it's an incomplete evacuation. I always think that's such a funny term when you are talking about going to the bathroom Incomplete evacuation and increased gas or mucus in the stool.

Speaker 1:

Ibs is a functional disorder, which means that even though the digestive tract looks normal, it's not functioning as it should. Muscles in the intestines move food from your stomach to the rectum. Muscles in the intestines move food from your stomach to the rectum and normally they're contracting and relaxing in a gentle rhythm that moves the food along, and for healthy guts that's a predictable schedule. But with some people the muscle spasm, the contractions are longer and stronger and those spasms are painful. They disrupt the movement of food through the intestines, so if they slow it down you're constipated. If they move too quickly you get diarrhea. So it's not unusual for IBS people to alternate between both.

Speaker 1:

Another cause of discomfort for people with IBS results from oversensitive nerve endings in the digestive tract. So small bubbles of gas that wouldn't bother most people might be really painful for those people and that heightened sensitivity can lead to swelling and bloating, which we're talking about nervous system stuff. This was so interesting to me how your nervous system, the way that your body reads, your nerves read this stuff, can cause the the physical response like that. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So you know it. Just this really kind of takes me back to you know teenage years when I was diagnosed and how nothing was explained to me, nothing. But I also didn't ask that you didn't, you didn't ask questions back then it's so hard to know what to ask though how would you know?

Speaker 2:

You know, I mean, but these days I would just be. I would at least ask okay, what is that? What does that mean? Yeah, and how does that work? And how does what does? How did I get that something Right? But at 16, I was like, yeah, just give me the medicine, I'm out, I just want to feel better.

Speaker 1:

But were your parents with you, like, would they have thought to ask that? Or I guess, if parents don't know, they wouldn't have thought to as soon as I start the difference between today's kids and me.

Speaker 2:

As soon as I started driving, my parents were never with me. I went to the doctor by myself, the grocery store work, like all the things. So, no, I didn't.

Speaker 1:

I remember being in the doctor's office and him telling me you know IBS and I was like you, just go home and say, mom, I have IBS and it's just I guess, or I probably just went to the pharmacy and got my medicine and just took it. I mean yeah, and you just don't talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I remember that part, but yeah, it's. This is so interesting to me, just knowing how it works and you know how you eat, because I hear we hear ibs all the time, but do we ever think about what that really is or how that works? So some things that can cause ibs are muscle contractions in the intestines, your nervous system, like you already said, severe infections, early life stress and changes in the gut microbes Somewhere. We're going to talk about the mental, emotional okay, stress, that's early life stress. So people exposed to stressful events, especially in childhood, tend to have more symptoms of IBS.

Speaker 2:

So you consider this is a story that my mom has told me, told me many times over the years that, um, when my parents got divorced, I didn't show any emotion, I was just quiet and they thought she's just fine, she, she took it fine. But now we know, yeah, probably not. There's no divorce, that's easy on a child, right, and so, um, so that probably was my first earliest stressor. And then there's just life. You know, just being a teenager is, so can be so stressful.

Speaker 1:

I hear kids, of kids having stomach aches. You hear this kind of stuff a lot and I very often will ask what's been going on in life, because a lot of times kids do just cope. Our bodies are very smart, our emotions are, it's just guarded right. They survive, they just do what they got to do and this stuff comes out though a different way. And if you think about the way your stress level can affect your nervous system, which is your regulator right Of your body, so your emotions affect your nervous system and if that's a big part of some people's IBS, that would make sense, that it would present that way.

Speaker 2:

You know. And then now we know so much about the vagus nerve that we didn't you know.

Speaker 1:

And then now we know so much about the vagus nerve that we didn't Right so pretty slow before I mean this whole domino Right, we can follow yeah.

Speaker 2:

So we don't get stressed out while we're learning about these things.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is a perfect example Well, there's a lot of them, but of why. And when we talk about leaky gut, same thing. These are. These are topics that can throw you down some really deep rabbit holes of trying to find where did it start, why, if it's gut microbiomes, what do I take for that? What do I do to fix the etiology?

Speaker 2:

And this is why I love homeopathy, because we don't even have to know where every day they work I say that every day on the free 15 minute phone calls. Most people are trying to figure out the etiology and what's wrong, what caused this and what's happening. I'm like this is why I love homeopathy. I don't have to know, and for some people that's like what I don't, but I want to know. Okay, yeah, I don't have to know if I can, and I think sometimes it can still treat the.

Speaker 2:

The cool thing about the remedies is they are treating the root cause, even if we don't know what exactly that is Exactly, but a lot of people just want to know anyway, and I've I've settled in my mind I don't have to know if I can address that symptom and feel better and know that I'm getting to the root cause anyway. So this is why I don't know if I've ever had whatever.

Speaker 2:

I don't know you know, certain well, covid, I don't know if I've ever had COVID, probably, but I don't know Cause. Then I got tested and I'm just we're addressing the presenting symptoms.

Speaker 1:

And very often I feel like I see the link. As somebody physically gets well or we start remedies, the triggers, or that where it comes from, does start to become more apparent. True, where, instead of being disrupted all the time, they can clearly see. Oh, it's when I had a really stressful exam coming up, or a work, a stressor that seems to trigger my IBS or you know, after a sickness this lasts a really long time two months. For two months I'm my stomach's upset. So I do think those things. As you move forward with remedies, it becomes clearer. Sometimes, not all the time, sometimes it just gets better, and then that's, that's all.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So I got a tangent there.

Speaker 2:

I love it. No, I love it the conversations. It's so helpful. Do you want to talk about the triggers?

Speaker 1:

Sure, yeah, triggers. So the symptoms of IBS can be triggered by many things. Some of them we've already talked about, but the couple primary ones are food, um that the role of food allergies or intolerance in IBS is not fully understood. Sometimes a true food allergy or, I'm sorry, a true food allergy rarely causes IBS, but many people do have worse symptoms when they eat certain foods or drink certain things. Um, obviously, I think the ones we hear a lot are gluten and dairy, um, citrus fruits, carbonated drinks, um other things that are just difficult for digestion, and then stress. So most people do have worse or more frequent symptoms during periods of time with increased stress. So, um, I thought this is all interesting because it is functional and they don't know what causes it. It may, the stress might make symptoms worse, but doesn't always cause the symptoms, if that makes sense, like they're there anyway, but they're worse when you're stressed. Yeah, you're more likely to suffer from IBS if you're under 50, a female and have a family history or mental health issues.

Speaker 2:

Yep. So that mental health piece is going to be a common and a really, I guess I could say, strong theme throughout these remedies that we're going to talk about, these remedies that are big for IBS have big mental emotional pictures, and so we know in homeopathy that when we that it homeopathy shines in the mental emotional piece of your health, mental emotional conditions is my favorite kind of case to work on, and not because it's easy, but because it it's clear. It's more clear to me probably, like eczema is to you. You can see right how things are getting better.

Speaker 1:

You do see, in places where I cannot find a good remedy, you do see the mental, emotional remedies very well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you for that. So Argentinit Argentum Nitricum is silver nitrate and this remedy has a big mental emotional picture which is often indicated in people with IBS. So it has a lot of anxiety, anticipation, fears and trembling. They have a great desire for sweets, which negatively affects the gut. These people are nervous, impulsive and hurried, yet timid and anxious. They can have panic and anxiety attacks, anticipation, apprehension and fear when going to the doctor, dentist or other new places.

Speaker 2:

Argentum nitricum modalities are worse at night, worse for sugar, worse on the left side, worse before and during menses, better from open fresh air, better for cold air and cold baths, better for motion and then the gut. Health issues of Argentum Nitricum include diarrhea from emotions or anticipation and after any emotion, with flatulence. Nervous diarrhea after sugar motion with flatulence, nervous diarrhea after sugar constipation alternating with diarrhea, belching flatulence, painful swelling of the stomach and enormous distention alteration with radiating pain, nausea, retching, vomiting and violent colicky pains, and their stools might have a shredded appearance with mucus turning green like chopped spinach, watery and very offensive. So that's Argentum Nitricum, silver nitrate. I think that's going to be one of the top choices, especially when the mental emotional fits.

Speaker 1:

That was going to be. My next question was as we talk through these remedies, did you put them in order of how you would rank them, or are they just in any order?

Speaker 2:

Actually I didn't mean to, but it looks like, yes, they are in order. So do you want to talk about Ignatia?

Speaker 1:

Sure, okay, ignatia Amara, one of my favorite remedies and we mentioned it in the beginning. It can do a lot of things, but specifically for IBS, um, just like Argentum, nitricum has a big mental emotional picture which I think you're going to see when taking care of IBS that that sounds like it's a huge element of it, of treatment. Ignatia is the queen of worry. These people worry themselves into IBS. Their symptoms they can have suppressed or deep grief, sobbing sadness or deep grief, sobbing sadness, sighing, often emotional shock and disappointment disorders of the mind. They may be really unhappy people who can't sleep. They are worse for consolation, very oversensitive and nervous, constantly frustrated, quarrelsome. They're internally conflicted, very highly emotional and moody. So joking, they'll go from having a great time joking, laughing, to changing and being sad and tearful.

Speaker 1:

Ignatia has OCD. Ignatia has OCD, the fear of being hurt and disappointed. They're very idealistic, sentimental and romantic. They might be jealous from disappointing love or homesick. Ignatia physically, the abdomen may have spasms and cramps with flatulence and colic, worse at night, worse for coffee and sweets, fullness of their abdomen and distension causing an inability to breathe. And that might not be literally can't breathe, but I have heard that where they like can't take a breath or they feel like they can't. The gut picture of Ignatia includes constipation diarrhea alternating with constipation, painful constriction of the anus after stool, hemorrhoids, sinking feeling in the stomach or an empty feeling or trembling in the stomach. There will be flatulence, hunger with nausea, regurgitation of food, and the stools can look like they have all kinds of colors and mucus. They can also be large and soft but pass with difficulty. So some overlap there, but there are there are some other specific ones there that you should be able to differentiate well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it's the I think it's the worry. Did ArgentNet have a lot of worry? They had a lot of fears. Yes, yeah, argentinian had a lot of anticipation, anticipation yeah, and, and then Ignatia has a lot of worry.

Speaker 1:

I was saying Argentinian had like that hurried. Like I picture somebody who is like um internally, like humming, like they're worried about what's going to come. Not worried but like fearful of what's going to come. Yeah, um Nervous people, and then Ignatia is like worry and yeah.

Speaker 2:

Huh.

Speaker 1:

It reminds me of Eeyore. I know there are other remedies that can be Eeyore, but Ignatia sounds kind of like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh Eeyore. I was like what is she saying? The word wasn't growing beauty, you know, the little, the little. He's like sighing and everything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, mm, hmm, mm, hmm. Um, yeah, I love Ignatia and I love like a podium. Like a podium is amazing. It's a huge remedy. Um, it's club moss and it's another fantastic one for the mental emotional conditions. Um, so, as, as well as gut health. So it, like a podium, is a big gut health remedy and a big mental emotional remedy.

Speaker 2:

So the mental picture of like a podium includes a weak memory, confusion, dyslexia, difficult concentration, indecisive, timid, low self-confidence, poor self-esteem. They also have some anticipation, which is averse to undertaking new things, yet they go through it with ease. So you think of the person that's so scared to go on for that dance recital, yet they get up there and do amazing and you would never know they were nervous about it and they're. You know they're finished and like, oh my gosh, you almost died, but what you did so good. You know some people you can tell they're really nervous, but these, like a podium, you can't even tell they're nervous.

Speaker 2:

They can have great anxiety in the pit of the stomach, anxiety inside of their house, so they might feel more anxious in their home. They might feel more anxious with company during stormy weather, while walking in the open air. They can have panic attacks with fear of failure, public speaking and stage fright. They have a fear of being alone. They can awake irritable and angry, sad and anxious, and they can be domineering and have a love for power.

Speaker 2:

So the gut health picture of lycopodium includes bloating, food allergies, flatulence, full and bloated immediately after eating I hear this all the time Right when they finish eating, they're so full and bloated. When that happens to me, which is very rare anymore, I still will take lycopodium only as needed. So I used to need like a podium regularly, but now, on the rare occasion that I get bloated, I'll just take a one dose of like a podium. And so this is where we're getting to in our homeopathy journey and our health journey is you get to where you don't need a remedy on a schedule, but you get you to where you just take a remedy when you have a symptom that you need or want to take care of.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Remind me to circle back to that when you finish like a podium, because I want your thoughts on that the chronically moving from like regularly scheduled chronics to here and there.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, oh okay. So, yes, diabetes, weak liver and poor digestion liver painful to pressure and spots, jaundice with flatulence, violent gallstone, colic. Stools can be hard and difficult, small and incomplete. They can be pale, putrid, thin and brown. They can be mixed with hard lumps. That's like a podium and I love, love, love, love, love, love like a podium. 30 or 200 are great choices. I mean, of course you go 6C or 12C, of course you definitely can. I just I don't. Usually I go 30 or 200. So what were you going to say?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my question.

Speaker 1:

This is just like a philosophical maybe or whatever, just good discussion.

Speaker 1:

I've been thinking through how you were saying you use this here and there when you need it, and you and I have talked about this before, where this is how my mind thinks through If we're, homeopathy uproots conditions, it can be curative and you're no longer dealing with a condition and so like just talking through that and why people may still need this remedy right here and there if you're supposed to be cured. And my mind thinks through this as you go from having a condition right when, like we've talked a lot about how a healthy body is not never symptomatic but that's having a symptom present does not mean you have a chronic condition and so we don't need remedies to fix every tiny little thing. But when our body is stuck in a cycle that creates these conditions, the remedies help break out and move through it all the way to the end. So am I understanding that correctly, where remedies uproot that cyclical condition, but that doesn't mean you may never have that symptom present again for the rest of your life?

Speaker 2:

I agree with that. So you know when, on the rare occasion that I do get bloated, it's because I chose to eat something that I don't normally eat, or too much.

Speaker 1:

Which makes sense, right? Like your body even a healthy body doesn't like those things. And so let's say you didn't take a remedy. Your body would move through and feel better in a day. Maybe I don't I don't know that it would be more than a day, but it's more comfortable if you take a remedy, right?

Speaker 2:

so, yeah, if I take like a podium, it's's, you know, it's minutes and I'm, I feel better, I'm like, ooh, okay, so um and uh, you know, bloating can be really uncomfortable really, especially if you're out somewhere, you're not even at home, or you can just unbutton your pants.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, amen.

Speaker 2:

It can be so uncomfortable. So I'm, you know, I'm looking, I'm taking it for comfort but also, at the same time, it is strengthening that system. So you know, when I say um, ate something that I don't normally eat, I think you all know I don't. I don't completely agree with cutting out whole food groups, but I think all of this is why I don't guide people on nutrition, because I think everybody's so different. Every body is so different, or at least somewhat different, different enough that, while I might be able to eat tomatoes you know you are okay, let's just take the. Do you know what I figured out? Bree from the um, the guacamole from the retreat it was leftover, it was two or three days old the histamine it was the histamine. I know that. I just figured that out. So I made me and Grace made fresh guacamole and remember I was saying I don't know, sometimes avocado makes my stomach hurt and sometimes it doesn't.

Speaker 1:

It was leftover.

Speaker 2:

Okay, right.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't eat leftover guacamole because it's brown. So that was not brown. No, it wasn't brown. No.

Speaker 2:

No, it wasn't, but it was still a couple of days old.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, okay, we're going to have to come back to this because I want to talk about histamine, next podcast. So we're going to do this.

Speaker 2:

Well, mcas, so we're going to talk about mast cell, and so that's histamine, all right, um, so that's the point, though. Right, because four of us could sit there at the retreat and eat, eat guacamole, and only one of us gets a stomach ache. And it's not because I'm allergic to guacamole or avocado. It was, uh, my, there was something about that, right, and I think it was the histamine that my body just didn't agree with at that moment or deal with, well, and so you take a remedy, right. So I don't have a condition, I don't have mast cell activation syndrome, you know.

Speaker 1:

I still stand by my own, whatever. I am not like an amateur researcher, but just my observations of people. And I do think different people under stress or presented with a different scenario respond. They have like a way that their body communicates that some people it's on their skin right away, some people it's in their gut right away. My husband gets he'll start getting heartburn again if he has a lot of work stress and he doesn't even realize what's going on. But I just think certain people present a way. But I don't believe that I wouldn't say to anyone that he suffers from chronic indigestion all the time anymore. But you know, I don't know what that is exactly, but I do think I different bodies, healthy people, still their our bodies communicate when we're like not right.

Speaker 2:

So there's a weakness. There's a weakness in every person, something that's weaker than other systems, and when there's stress, it's going to attack that weakest part and for me it's it's it's gut.

Speaker 1:

I've had gut issues since I was five, or born, or whatever you know Now, do you think those could be totally uprooted at some point with, like really deep treatment? I mean, would it just take so long in our life because we started so like we didn't do this as children, right?

Speaker 2:

I absolutely believe gut issues can be uprooted Absolutely, and so you know, having a nice clean diet and minimal stress and you know taking good homeopathic remedies, but especially well you know the just getting ready for the retreat and being there, that was just an added stressor and you know for me. But so I don't believe that I still have IBS, I just believe there's a weakness there. So when something comes, when stressors come, I'm going to feel it. That's where I'm going to feel it. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right, and then mine just presents differently, like everybody's or not everybody, but you know they are like different ways that those present. Okay, yeah, all right, great yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I want to just point out there is a Banerjee protocol for IBS, but I, I wouldn't, I, I don't recommend it. Well, I wouldn't recommend using it without being under the care of a homeopath. So, under the care of a homeopath. Yes, under the care of a homeopath. Yes, it's a Banerjee protocol, it's in their original book. It's in their original book, so it's proven. But it includes tuberculinum, a daily dose, and I have seen too many aggravations on tuberculin. Um, I never start with tuberculin daily and not 200 because of the amount of aggravations that I've seen. So if you're going to do the Banerjee protocol, I would say, do that under the care of a homeopath who can guide you and and look at things.

Speaker 1:

Now I like yep Yep Umuxfamica, I like Yep Yep Tuberculin. I agree totally. That is one that is interesting to me.

Speaker 2:

So okay, you want to tell them when do they need to seek professional help?

Speaker 1:

Well, whenever you think you need to no, I'm kidding Um see a healthcare professional If you have persistent change in bowel habits or other symptoms of IBS. So you just want to rule out other serious conditions, because there are some serious things that you need to be treated. Um. So really significant ones you should pay more attention to are weight loss, diarrhea at night I'm assuming that means because you're not eating and still having diarrhea. I don't know why. I don't know why that's listed there Rectal bleeding, iron deficiency, anemia, unexplained vomiting and pain that is not relieved by passing gas or stool.

Speaker 2:

A couple of those I'd be like, yeah, I'm not going to a doctor for but Well, maybe not the first, I guess.

Speaker 1:

if it's persistent right, If you're not ever getting better, even with remedies, right.

Speaker 2:

But rectal bleeding, yeah, you better receive Unexplained vomiting. I'd probably still take a remedy. I'd be taking China.

Speaker 1:

Right, and I think we would try remedies first for a lot of these things.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, yeah, absolutely All right. Let's talk about leaky gut. So, um, the information that I grabbed about leaky gut and what it is, I got from Dr Josh Axe, his website, and because I really like his information, do you want?

Speaker 1:

to read about what leaky gut is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, tell us what leaky gut is? Okay. So this is again Dr Josh Axe. He says leaky gut syndrome is considered a hypothetical health condition and currently has yet to be formally recognized as a medical diagnosis. However, the concept of increased intestinal permeability, aka leaky gut, that occurs in some gastrointestinal diseases is gaining renewed attention from both the medical and natural health community. Many people exhibit poor diet choices, chronic stress, toxic overload and bacterial imbalance, which are also considered triggers for leaky gut. Why should it concern you? Studies recently have considered leaky gut a quote-unquote danger signal for autoimmune disease. What happens if you have it? Do you want me to keep going? What happens if you have it? Do you want me to keep going?

Speaker 1:

Okay, the intestines are protected by a single layer of specialized epithelial cells that are linked together by tight junction proteins. So you might want to go back and listen to that again. Just rewind me 10 seconds. There's a lining. I remember reading about this, like years ago. Like what in the world am I saying? So there's a lining that's really tightly linked together, the cells that are tight and they're creating a barrier as one. This is now back quoting Dr Axe. As one 2020 review explains, leaky gut symptoms are a consequence of intestinal tight junction malfunction, so they're not holding tight together.

Speaker 1:

I'm adding some of my words in here, so just know that I'm not quoting him all directly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's literally leaky. The lining is literally leaking proteins out into your blood, into your system. Yes, so it goes.

Speaker 1:

What I didn't understand back in the day, when, before I started really learning about this, is that that stuff goes directly into your system. Yes, so it goes. What I didn't understand back in the day, when before I started really learning about this, is that that stuff goes directly into your bloodstream. Yeah, and that is so. That's where those things that are being released there aren't. It's fine to go through your intestines because there's the lining.

Speaker 1:

It's getting rid of that junk but your blood is not supposed to have those things in it and that's why it creates that, all those symptomatic responses that we hear about. I picture these little dudes like link in their arms, like hold it really tight, you know, and then they get spread apart because they're weak and stuff goes through them like red Rover, but they're not doing it. Love it. Do you want to do symptoms or you want me to go and you do remedies?

Speaker 2:

Well, there's not much about remedies, so I'll do yeah, Okay. So these tight junction proteins are the gateway between your intestines and your bloodstream. We already talked about that. So more than 40 different tight junction proteins have now been recognized to play a role in gut health. So the potential symptoms of leaky gut are gastric ulcers, joint pain, infectious diarrhea, IBS, IBD, which is inflammatory bowel disease like Crohn's or ulcerative colitis, SIBO, which is small intestinal or small intestine, bacterial overgrowth, celiac disease, esophageal and colorectal cancer, allergies, respiratory infections, acute inflammation conditions like sepsis, SERS, multiple organ failure, chronic inflammatory conditions like arthritis, thyroid disorders, obesity-related metabolic disease, diseases like fatty liver, type 2 diabetes and heart disease, autoimmune diseases like lupus, multiple sclerosis, type 1 diabetes, Hashimoto's and more, Parkinson's disease, chronic fatigue syndrome and the propensity towards weight gain or obesity.

Speaker 2:

So like everything, yeah. So if you have any, I mean if you have anything, you probably have a leaky gut, I mean.

Speaker 1:

Well and listen. We know that so much of our immune system is in our gut, yep, and if it can't do its job, I mean my understanding too, yep, and if it can't do its job, I mean my understanding too is that this can even cause a lot of mental, emotional picture, because there's that gut brain link. Absolutely so. These were all physical conditions, but I'm I mean, there are even studies that show anxiety like big emotional symptoms anxiety depression being probably the most common yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Um, so we know leaky gut might not directly cause those conditions, but it's more about the people who have gut issues are more likely to have a number of other health problems, because all disease begins in the gut. So some of the underlying causes of leaky gut include genetic predisposition, poor diet, chronic stress, toxin overload and bacterial imbalance. And then what I wanted to say the reason we're not going to go into remedies is because they're basically the same as IBS. Reason we're not going to go into remedies is because they're basically the same as IBS. So all the all the IBS remedies can be used for leaky gut.

Speaker 1:

Um, because really, leaky gut is just a general overview term of a more specific issue, right Like when you take someone's case. What I mean? You would see all the other presenting symptoms, and those remedies would then help heal the gut.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. If somebody comes to me and says I have leaky gut, that means zero, to me Nothing.

Speaker 1:

What are your?

Speaker 2:

symptoms. Right, what are your symptoms? Because obviously 10 people could come with leaky gut and have 10 different symptoms presenting, so we're going to use the remedies that match. Have 10 different symptoms presenting, so we're going to use the remedies that match. And so a lot of the it's still going to be a lot of the gut and mental, emotional remedies like an IBS, but some there are more, some more great gut remedies to consider are and these are this is where you'll write down these remedies and read them in your Materia Medica and decide if it's decide if it's right for you.

Speaker 2:

So Nux, vomica, china, arsenicum Album, choledonium, sepia, carboveg and Bovista, and so, in addition to the IBS ones that we already talked about. So what we're going to do is teach a full course on IBS, ibd, ibc, leaky gut, other gut issues, and we're going to teach in that course the potencies, how often to use it, how to dose it, case taking, case management, and so we're going to go into a lot of detail in that course. If you're subscribed to emails, you'll get notified when that course is released and um, that's all we have for IBS and leaky gut, but that's a lot. We did a lot of it's a lot of good stuff. Get it in your notes thank you for always listening.

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