Homeopathy At Home with Melissa
I am a Registered Homeopath and Lactation Consultant who loves Jesus and believes in the power of prayer in healing and restoration. God designed our bodies to heal themselves. We interfere with the body’s abilities by introducing medications which stop the action our bodies were made to do - heal! Homeopathy comes in and stimulates the immune system to help the body remember how to heal itself. ALL people are welcomed here, no matter your beliefs! I discuss mostly homeopathy here, but also I bring an encouraging word from the Lord and touch on the topics of parenting, homeschooling, marriage, and nutrition. Welcome to my world! It’s a beautiful, healthy life!
Homeopathy At Home with Melissa
Bri's Journey: From Motherhood to Homeopathic Healing
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Meet Bri, the skin and birth expert at Homeopathy at Home who transforms lives with her unique approach to eczema cases and pregnancy support. This intimate conversation takes us through her remarkable journey from desperate mom searching for answers to becoming a trusted practitioner helping hundreds of families find natural healing solutions.
Bri's homeopathic awakening happened during a middle-of-the-night crisis with her croupy son. After multiple ER visits and conventional treatments failing, she discovered a homeopathic protocol that dramatically improved his condition. What sealed her conviction was a personal experience with the flu – after taking belladonna and gelsemium remedies, she woke up completely renewed instead of suffering through the typical weeks-long recovery.
What makes Bri's approach special is her comprehensive understanding of both the remedies and the human experience behind chronic conditions. Through her work with eczema cases, she's learned that successful treatment goes far beyond selecting the right remedy – it requires navigating the emotional terrain of worried parents, managing flares and setbacks, and creating realistic healing plans that acknowledge the messy reality of family life.
Her passion for birth support adds another dimension to her practice. With over a decade spent researching birth practices, attending deliveries as support, and even catching a baby herself, Bri brings a wealth of knowledge that empowers expectant mothers to make informed, confident decisions about their care.
Working alongside Melissa as both colleague and friend, Bri has developed into an indispensable part of the Homeopathy at Home team. Their teaching partnership thrives on honest communication, shared faith, and complementary skills – Bri particularly shines as Melissa's "wingman" during classes and Q&A sessions, helping translate complex homeopathic concepts into practical applications.
Ready to experience Bri's expertise with your skin condition or pregnancy journey? Schedule a free 15-minute consultation with Melissa who will connect you with Bree for specialized care tailored to your unique situation.
Welcome back to Homeopathy at Home with Melissa. Hey, Melissa.
Speaker 2:Hey, brie, I'm super excited to do. Tonight's episode is all about you. I love it, yay. So I decided a while ago to do these episodes, to also post these videos on my website for each of my team members. Post these videos on my website for each of my team members so that when people come and they want to work with one of my team members, they can go and watch the video, listen to the podcast episode and kind of get to know you a little bit, right, and so you know the people that listen to our podcast often or have been listening for a long time. They know you, but this is really going to be, but they might actually not know a lot of your story, honestly.
Speaker 1:True, they might know some of my personality, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, um, so this is also going to be for the people who have not been listening to the podcast and want to um, you know, want to work with you for eczema, but also just want to get a feel for, yeah, who you are and what you do. So thanks for being here. Of course, I would love for you to start with your just you know, a little bit about yourself, maybe your family, your history, if you want, whatever, however, what you're comfortable with, and then also how you got into or started with homeopathy.
Speaker 1:Okay, so my little bit about my family. We currently live in Tampa. Um, I am married to Kyle literally best guy. No, he really is. Like I have, I have outkicked my coverage, or whatever they usually tell men. That's me with him. He is wonderful. We have three boys who are nine, seven and four. My dream come true. Also Some days like I prayed for sons, but there are some days that I you know like the be careful what you wish for situation, but really I am very blessed. So we live in Tampa where my husband grew up. I grew up in Michigan, so this is totally not how I grew up culturally weather but I am loving Tampa. So we moved here four years ago. He is a pastor, so we've moved around. We've been back in Tampa for four years and that is actually how I ever got connected to you, melissa, and we lived in Charlotte when 15 years ago, almost maybe 12, when we moved in 2013. So I guess a little over 10.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we moved to Charlotte, melissa, you were in the crunchy circles back then. That Facebook group was pretty small, like maybe a few hundred women. So if you were in that community you, I mean anybody who did anything right everybody knew who you were. We had the midwives who we knew. We had the. You were the only homeopath, I think, at that time in there. I didn't know what that was, so I didn't know you were a homeopath.
Speaker 1:But I had been. I had journeyed into the natural world in my early like 19, 20 years old because I had a bunch of digestive problems growing up and it kind of was an accident. I needed to do something different than what I grew up doing. I did always want to be in healthcare. I thought I would be a doctor and then I didn't want to go to college for that long, which is on track with who I am now still. So I then was like maybe I'll go to nursing school, but I had been called into ministry as, like a young child, I knew that. So that was kind of tabled when I met Kyle and we moved around and I um, I just pursued natural health on my own. So when I had my first baby was my first real exposure to using homeopathic remedies. I probably used teething tablets and didn't know, which I think is a story for a lot of moms. So that was about 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:He was a baby and I just he would get croup all the time and I deep dove in my anxiety one night I read I remember this night it was the middle of the night this was like the fifth or sixth time he had croup and really he'd already been to the ER a couple times. They basically were like if he can breathe, stay home. And I'm like his fever is so high he can hardly breathe. I'm terrified and there has to be something else I can do. Even all my other natural things like oils, all the diffusing things just not cutting it. And he kept getting it. And so I found the croup protocol that we still talk about and I did it in the first time. I remember thinking like he was significantly better after a couple of rounds of it and of course I was like that's a coincidence, so we'll just wait and see until next time. And I did that and truly. After that he maybe got croup two or three more times over the next few years.
Speaker 1:And in between there I started using remedies, for I was Googling at that time, literally looking anything up for my husband's heartburn and he would get heartburn almost daily, had tried all the things, even all the pharmaceuticals, and I used Nat Foss and it was working. And then I did it for the flu. That that was the flu was, or maybe no, I think it was the flu was what sealed the deal, because I felt awful. I had a toddler, I took belladonna and gelsemium I don't know where I think I found. I don't know, I don't remember where I found these things. I had no idea what I was doing either, you guys. I was like succusting the dry dosing and I was taking one pellet when you're supposed to take five on the bottle. I I had no clue. I took them both.
Speaker 1:My fever got higher that night, it like burned out of me and I woke up the next day a new person, like not not like the hungover from sickness, and usually after the flu you're recovering for several days and I was brand new and I got out of bed like this is a miracle, something. I was just healed. Something crazy happened. So that began my venture. And I remembered Melissa I think I contacted you about the allergy trio way back when, so there was some overlap, um, a little bit so fast forward. I had another baby I'm trying to use things acutely and you offered your first gateway and I think that was right about the time God had really opened the door for you again to start your business back up. And you did gateway and I was like I'm doing it. You had a really good reputation. I knew you loved Jesus and I'm like I'm gonna do this. You had a really good reputation.
Speaker 2:I knew you loved Jesus and I'm like I'm gonna do this. And here here we are. I love it, so awesome, okay. So your, it was your gut health and then your that got you thinking more natural. And it was your son's health that actually caused you to start using homeopathic remedies, even if you didn't know that's what you were doing, and that's a lot of people's story is that it's usually their. Your first child, your first child, gets sick with something, and then we start. That's when we really start. What usually happens is we get pregnant and then we're like OK, what are we doing here? Something's changing, we're going to. We're like, okay, what are we doing here? Something's changing, we're going to. We're going to have really good natural healthcare journey. It's going to be great. And then when a chronic illness comes for the, there's there he is, hi.
Speaker 1:This is real life, my actual work life. This is Lennon interrupting Continue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you were saying it does start with the kids, it changes you, yeah, starts with the kids, and then, oh my gosh, they're so beautiful. And then it does change you. And then your husband's health right, he had a thing and you were doing that, and then the flu. So I wanted to say about belladonna and gelsimium I am sure that you've told me that you know many times before, but for some reason it clicked with me. I think it was just last year, and so last year was my first time using gelsimium and belladonna mixed together and I was like whoa. So that's actually what I'm telling people to do now is Gelsimium and Belladonna.
Speaker 1:I feel like it accelerated and I think I remember telling you that I didn't know anything about moving through the illness. I didn't even know how homeopathy worked. All I knew was it like blew it right through me. Homeopathy worked. All I knew was it like blew it right through me. And I had enough of an understanding that I knew a fever was good. I knew I was miserable for a night and but I wasn't in pain. So now, looking back, like I remember I had a high fever so I was uncomfortable, but I didn't have the headache, I didn't have the body aches that usually you're like suffering through your nights when you have the flu. And it took that part away, like that was subsided, but the fever didn't go down. And you know and I laugh because the husband I feel like he was my guinea pig I'm like, well, you're pretty resilient, I'm just going to try stuff. You're probably not going to hurt you.
Speaker 2:So it was yeah, still do that with my kids, and I tell people this. All the time I experiment on myself and my children, I'm like, yeah, come on, it's because, you know, I just recently found this strep and flu combination and the last time my kids all got sore throats I was like, all right, well, let's try this. Didn't tell them what I was giving them they don't care, you know and I gave it to them and it was amazing. I've had amazing results with that remedy. So, yeah, and that's what Hahnemann did.
Speaker 1:He experimented on himself and his family, I mean especially in acutes. You can't really do any harm. You can't really, I mean you can't like it will not harm you, so it's great.
Speaker 2:Okay. So I have a question. You, you reached out to me for my allergy trio. Did you come to my house and buy it from me?
Speaker 1:No, so this is all. It's so funny to look back because I, literally, I am me, I have all. What do you think happened? I emailed you or I reached out on Facebook and said I want to know more. You respond. I ghosted you. I never responded. You even checked back in Like, do you still want some? And I was like, yeah, you were so nice, you were on top of things. And I was like, well, I probably forgot. I ever did it. That is still what I would do if I reached out. We didn't ever meet in person. So that was fall of 2019 was when I started my first class with you. We met in person. I mean, it was probably two years later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because you came to my house as we were selling oh, that's right. So we couldn't even go inside because they were painting and you were pregnant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were painting the inside, and so we sat and you're like you were getting ready to move.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're moving to this house.
Speaker 1:So, that was how we finally met. All that time later, yeah, but I really I mean the journey to homeopathy. I thought that I knew what homeopathy was and I hear that a lot. I thought it was just holistic, natural medicine. So I told a couple people that I knew what homeopathy was before and they were like, oh, my word really. And I'm like, yeah, like why are you so surprised? And now they're probably so happy to find somebody else to come to find out. I had no idea what they were.
Speaker 1:But when I started working with you, I mean honestly, truly, you guys, melissa, just invited me in and then we were, we became friends, just talked a lot. We became friends, just talked a lot. You really encouraged me and mentored me probably more than you even know, through a really hard season of my life in Pittsburgh and that was such a gift to me, not even homeopathy, but it turned into a little bit of hours, like just working a little bit, but getting to sit in your classes and I was like soaking it all up and it truly felt like that missing, like it launched our health, my family's health. We weren't, we didn't have a lot of chronic stuff, but it really shifted things for us and I just knew. And then meeting you was so great. So over time I mean it was probably two and a half years later you again invited me into like the next level, like do you want to learn how to do consults? I'm like, no, I can't do that. And you always have been so encouraging and believed in me and taught me so much and so I started sitting.
Speaker 1:I hope I'm not getting ahead of this, but this is how I got here, started sitting under you, and I think one of the first cases, if not the first one, was a baby with really bad eczema. Really, I think I remember the name and everything. It was a big and I remember truly like I saw this, it could have brought me to tears. It was so horrible looking, truly like I saw this, it could have brought me to tears. It was so horrible looking and I had never seen homeopathy do anything chronic for somebody that I saw. Like of course, we talked about these stories and you had shared your story, but seeing this little baby and what remedies did for and nothing else, it wasn't like they totally overhauled their diet and like did you know? You hear that and I'm like well ofed their diet and like you know, you hear that and I'm like, well, of course, because you change your whole entire life. They didn't and it blew my mind.
Speaker 1:So then I was just sitting in consult seeing it do remedies work like that all across the board was amazing, but skin I really did start. I felt so deeply for those families with those babies with eczema and what it can do and the relief that brought to the mom. So I do think that played a big role in the cases I started working with just happened to be little kids with eczema that I really felt passionate about and that led into. I mean, here we are now. It's primarily what I see are pregnant moms, which birth has always been something I love. So that's a whole other rabbit trail.
Speaker 2:So that was going to be my next question what is your favorite kind of case or what is your niche? And I know most people know that eczema, baby eczema but I think less people know about your passion for pregnancy and labor and delivery. And I actually will tell people when I do the free 15 minute phone calls and they are having, they're pregnant, you know, and I tell them, you know I'm going to, I recommend you work with Bree, you know. I tell them about your passion for pregnancy, labor and delivery, delivery and and I said and I'll say she even catches babies.
Speaker 1:I hope it's okay that I say that. I mean you can?
Speaker 2:I try not to make a habit of that, right, but I have done it right because God placed you in, not that you go, I'll catch your baby right, except I would. If you would like, I'll catch your baby Right, except I would.
Speaker 1:If you would like me to catch your baby, I would be honored. I have been obsessed. I mean truly. There were years where it probably was an obsession, even into my teen years. Birth has always been amazing to me. I loved the idea of motherhood and I don't. There's something I love, not just the babies. It's like the whole journey of a mom through pregnancy, like supporting her as another woman. It meant a lot to me and so I. The people that were at my birth were so meaningful to me.
Speaker 1:But before I even knew homeopathy, there was probably at least a 10 year period of time where I researched, read things, listened to podcasts, read books, blogs, like just studied birth and read I mean, everything that I could find and get my hands on the medical side of it. How American obstetrics works compared to other countries, that's fascinating. If you don't know compared to other countries, that's fascinating. If you don't know, it's a whole deep dark hole. Be ready for some stuff. But the way that America deals with birth and I truly love it. I love all of it. I love all the things. So I don't have any certifications at this point. It's always been something that I've loved.
Speaker 1:But God has been very kind to me and gentle in his like. Not yet. Now is not the time for some of these things. We were starting my husband's ministry career moving around a lot. I was really involved in ministry at the time with him and I see now God kind of widening my you know, my ability to be a part of some of these things that I've stored up all these years of like, knowledge and passion. And now that I have my kids and I'm doing more at home, I have a, you know, more options of like, more time to do some of those and less time to do other things. You know that's just different. So now birth as I've been able to attend birth just organically, people are friends of mine, just asking me to come to them.
Speaker 1:So when I birth is truly probably my first love in as far as medicine or natural health goes, and I want women to feel, more than anything, fully educated, empowered and like autonomous in your decision-making. We don't do a good job of that here in America, but you have all of the options. You know you are outside of the Lord. Obviously you can make decisions and that is why I think in this space, like when I talk to a mom that I meet with and our consults, we do the remedies for sure, we do homeopathic care plans. But even beyond that, my goal is for it to come alongside them.
Speaker 1:Like, what are you going to be walking through? Even if you've had a few kids, what were your experiences? How can we go into the next one? Maybe you know some more? I can give you resources. I've piled them up for years. It's been like something I love and I've had people do that in my life. Just share with me, like have you thought about this? And I'm like actually no, I didn't even know I could. I didn't even know I could. I didn't even know I could think about that. So I don't know if that's all making sense, but I love birth. Yeah, I love it. Baby, yeah, just one, I physically caught one, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:The other ones, their midwives were there and they caught the baby, or the mom caught the baby and I was just there supporting the mom. Um, so well, I love that because I think, like I said, a lot of people know that you take eczema cases, especially baby eczema, but you'll do any age right. And then I think, just doing eczema cases led into me saying, well, this person has acne in its skin, so I'm giving you this one too, and you're like acne is not easy. So I'm like, yes, now Bree is my skin expert.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it has, and actually it is kind of helpful. Once you kind of in that niche, I do see patterns more clearly. You're seeing them more often, so I still have some outliers. You know some other cases that are family members too. If they come, those are not always skin. But acne is not easy, but my confidence has grown. I mean seeing what remedies can do when you stick with it. I mean it just really is incredible. It does work.
Speaker 2:So you just said niche and I say niche, and, um, there was a, there was a real. I just saw recently where two women were like niche, no, it's niche, no, it's niche.
Speaker 1:You did say niche earlier. Now that you're saying that, right, that's so funny. I wonder what else we say like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, but I just it was the first reel I just saw recently and then just now we did that. Okay, well, so eczema. So we heard how you got into, or interested in, eczema cases or skin cases and tell me, bree, is that are those easy cases?
Speaker 1:okay, wow, that's a can of worms, I would say. They, the choosing remedies is not always hard. It can be for a handful, for in general. No, as far as just choosing um remedies, no case management of those cases, I would say those are difficult, they're not easy. I guess I answered that backwards. Yes, choosing remedies can be simple. I would say Not necessarily just easy.
Speaker 1:Having that background knowledge, I can pick them. I have really had to navigate some challenges managing the cases, because learning patterns, what does this look like? You can read it all day, but until you see it and you're working with cases and seeing it and it does look different in babies and little ones versus older kids or adults, that looks different. Well, I didn't know that until I'm working with people and knowing how to work through aggravations and what if that doesn't work for this person and um, there's a lot of moving parts I've had to, you know, work through. What is what goes together? Well, like what are some supports outside of homeopathy that are okay to bring in? And then sometimes too much of those things also is a detriment to the process. It's not that they're suppressive, but it's just like too much for the body to do all together. So no, I would not say they're easy. I would not say that because I'm like a super human. It's just become a focus and I think that is why it feels more manageable.
Speaker 1:The focus makes it easier, but, man, it has. There's been a huge learning curve. So if you were with me, if you're listening to this and you're with me in the beginning a few years ago, thank you for just being patient, as I was learning and still learning all the time. So I appreciate all the people who stuck it out.
Speaker 2:I love that you brought up the case management, because that is in any hard, chronic case, even in acutes. Honestly, that's the thing to learn and that's the hardest part, for lack of a better word Because, like you said, we know the remedies, we know what we're looking at, but in case management, we're talking about people management. We're talking about education and encouragement, not just our, but also are we on the right track? Is this an aggravation? Is this you know this just that bell curve? There's all those things to know and that's what you learn through time.
Speaker 2:Now I know that we have taught a little bit of eczema remedies, right, some people could do pretty good doing their own eczema case. But that's the what is it? The key? The thing is the management. Okay, you get to the end of your eight weeks now what? Or you don't even get to eight weeks. You've got this explosion now what? Or you've got this change it was oozing, now it's dry and itchy or red, and now what? And so this is where you're what you've learned and grown in over the past few years. You know what to do, like, you can look, you can hear a story, but it's still hard because you're dealing with mamas whose hearts are breaking for their children, and they can't stand it.
Speaker 1:And this is where, even in birth, this is a similar scenario where there's the ideal, there's the, you know, like, quote, unquote, what we feel like not even just me, any mom, would even say this is the best or the right or ideal version of this event. Well then, the reality is you're in the middle of this your kid has a flare and they have oozing, infected cheeks. Well, choosing to not do an antibiotic has one. You're one direction, you're going down, choosing to use it and dealing with what happens after. Potentially neither of those feel good and, honestly, when you're in it, neither are wrong, and that's kind of where things change, and so that was at the beginning.
Speaker 1:You know where you hear do this protocol and wait eight weeks. I have, I mean, there is a small percentage that can do that and that's actually what happens most of the time. There's some adjusting that needs to happen as we learn that child, if they get sick, if there's, you know so, many outside factors going on, so it's, it's just not like and I think that did catch me off guard at first Like other conditions, you can absolutely take a remedy. Take that, that, the protocols, and or a remedy for eight weeks, and you really can do that, with maybe even some fluctuation, but it's tolerable. But it doesn't always work that way with eczema.
Speaker 1:And then you know, in a birth scenario too, you go on with the ideal, but there's nuance, like you're tired. Even just fatigue changes how you're going to navigate decisions. So that's reality and I try to really be sensitive to, like encouraging okay, stay the course, we can do this. And reality you have a mom with maybe three little kids who is exhausted, whose babies and face is infected. I mean like it's okay to do what you need to do right now and we can work with that. So you know there's a lot. It's not as easy as just do this thing and keep moving on, at least not for me, I don't know. Maybe, maybe I should. No, I won't be able to be less personal. So I have to. I try to meet them where they're at and walk, whatever their journey will look like.
Speaker 2:And while so you're walking these parents through this really hard time, while being a parent yourself, a wife, a minister's wife, right, you have a role in the church, so you have a lot. You work for me, I mean, you know, and you're taking your own cases. So so it's. It really is, you're managing a lot and you're doing a great job at it. I can see that for sure. And so one thing I did want to say is that I'm going to have you come and talk about eczema and the inner healing circle, and so we'll do plan that for the future and come in and just talk about that a little bit. So, my, my last question for you is what's your favorite? I don't know if I should how to say what's your favorite class to teach with me? So as far in homeopathy. So you know, we teach gateways together. We lead good gut, bad gut together. You are right there with me through every class that we teach. Do you have a favorite thing that you like to teach about? That's a good question.
Speaker 1:Okay, I, okay, I don't man, that is hard. I loved doing, um, some of the workshopping with you at the retreat. So, obviously, when we can be in person, I think the dynamic is fun, I love that. But I actually think, um, the way it's not that gateway is necessarily my favorite, but the Q&A toward the end, like feeding off of things you're teaching, I really love to be your wingman, so like I love teaching a class alongside of you, but when I get to be a person who's like absorbing from you and then just interjecting and having a conversation, asking questions, I love to do that. So we do that in gateway, doing podcasts, like when we're teaching and I'm kind of your, you know I'm asking some questions. I love that dynamic. But I will say the retreat is really special because I got to teach there, but with you. You know I got to teach there, but with you, you know. I don't know if that answered your question.
Speaker 2:Absolutely it does, and you're so good at that part of it I love.
Speaker 1:You're a great teacher, so I'm like I don't need that, I just want to.
Speaker 2:I love it. Yeah, on the things that I do have to teach alone where you're not there, because of whatever reason. You know I did it on a different night or whatever, which is not very often, but when that does happen, I absolutely miss you. I'm like, oh my gosh, I need you, so I make. That's why I make sure, now that I'm going to teach, you can be there.
Speaker 1:And that's grown. I feel like just recording together it's a lot of fun, um, and I am always learning. There's so much to learn and I truly feel so honored to be given like this position to to work with you. So I mean, I love it. I feel so blessed to serve the people that I get to work with, who are so kind about, like that, I am a mom, so I don't always answer emails right away and they're so patient, like you know. I mean I try to set aside my my time to do this well, but it's, I feel like it's not just of you know, there's relational things involved that mean a lot to me.
Speaker 2:So yeah, well, I um, you know I've said this before in other places, but I'll say it here that in that first gateway class you know, not not the first night, but remember back then, gateway was eight weeks long, and so, by the end I don't know if it was during Gateway one or if it was during Gateway two, but during one of those, um, the Lord really highlighted you to me and I knew there was something really special. So it's such a blessing to have you, um, working with me because, um, I'll just give you, I was talking to somebody the other day who manages people and, um, and just, they were just talking about how stressful it is to manage people and I was like, not for me, I have an amazing team and, um, and you know, and that's all, the Lord I mean the Lord really shows me who, what, when and where, and so, um, I'm just so thankful. It's so easy. You know what I remember?
Speaker 2:Um, this might be going, this might be going too far. I was just going to say, okay, I won't, I won't go too deep, but it's so easy to have conversations and we learned how to communicate just by being open and honest. Remember, like our first conversation was like all right, we're here, we're going to do this, we're going to do this, we're going to do it Well, we're going to do it Christlike, and we're going to be honest and open. And that's how it started out, and that's how.
Speaker 1:That's why we've been a whole time and it was never. Yeah, man, we could do a whole podcast on that Navigating because I would say, too, there is a friendship side now, and navigating because I would say, too, there is a friendship side now. And work, and they are now so intertwined I don't know that you can separate them, but we have conversations differently in those arenas sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know business we do.
Speaker 2:We do it Honestly. I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so good, it's such a privilege. So thanks for listening to me rant everyone and I love being here An open book. You know that.
Speaker 2:So at this point, at the time of this recording, brie is the my skin expert and pregnancy, labor and delivery, birth expert. So if you come, if you do a free 15 minute phone call, I'm with me. That's where you start. You schedule the free 15 minute phone call and then, um, when we talk on the phone, I'm going to suggest that you work with Bree, um, and so the reason for this whole this video is so that you can see who I'm suggesting and see um, you know, see what you think. But but you know, and I say at the time of this recording, because we don't know what the Lord's going to do you know that could change, or maybe it never changed. We don't, we have no idea what he's going to do. So we just, we just trust him. Right, yeah, we trust him. So thanks everybody for watching, thanks Brie for being here and I'm looking forward to seeing what the Lord does with both of us and you and your family and your part of the business in the future. Thank you.
